The MLS Stadium Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by fairfax4dc, May 20, 2016.

  1. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS adjacent...the Washington Commanders released the first renderings of their new stadium; maybe DC can play Miami there in 20 years when they have Lamine Yamal on the team.

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  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I love that.

    Does a DC stadium really need a roof though? I know that’s en vogue but it feels unnecessary.
     
  3. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The roof is to ensure they can get a Super Bowl.
     
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  4. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Seems like a huge outlay for something that might happen once every 2 decades. There are already 10 domed/roofed stadiums and 6 are in the works to replace open-air stadiums.
     
  5. owian

    owian Member+

    Liverpool FC, San Diego FC
    May 17, 2002
    San Diego
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Makes it more versatile overall can be used for concerts, and conferences (which in D.C. would be popular) and the like, year around. Also greatly reduces the likelihood that events have to be canceled because of weather, which is going to reduce costs including insurance, and makes T.V. happy because the games will happen when they are supposed to happen. And it doesn't add that much to the build. Guessing that most of the new NFL stadiums will be domes.
     
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  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about NCAA basketball? Some regionals and all Final Fours are in domes.

    15 years ago the ACC tournament might have been appropriate there but college basketball is dying.

    But overall, yeah, it’s dubious it will be an efficient use of money.
     
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  7. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I’ve heard NFL fans complain that the whole league’s teams are playing in the same sanitized environment.
    I agree, but the taxpayers will pay for it.
     
  8. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The DC Government will contribute up to $1B in public funding for infrastructure improvement, parking, and site prep. The remaining construction costs, as as project overruns will be paid for by the Commanders owners. Which could be upwards of $3B+.
     
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  9. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This has me curious. DC's top tax rate is over 10%, so several hundred million dollars in payroll can generate a lot of tax revenue for the district. However, they will still train and practice in Virginia. I'm really curious how the taxes breakdown between the jurisdictions.

    With a $300m salary cap, and probably a $400m+ total payroll with coaches, execs, analysts, that's a theoretical $40m a year just in payroll taxes and $1.2b over 30 years.

    Makes the Kansas deal a little less crazy, but at barely 5% it's less lucrative.
     
  12. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    By one account - $6.6 billion in stadium and garage construction payments, property tax breaks, and 26 years of free rent on 24 acres of prime city-owned property.

    NLF owners know to disguise this stuff.

    https://www.fieldofschemes.com/2025...tadium-subsidy-there-is-much-media-rejoicing/
     
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  13. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cirrect me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the land that the former RFK Stadium, and the now new Commanders stadium sits on is owned and managed by the Federal Government. The feds are now leasing it to DC.....in order for it to be redeveloped.
     
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  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Move it where? They’re opening the stadium.
     
  15. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  16. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah he lost his credibility long ago.
     
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  17. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    That I don't know.
    Noted. But the demands amounts have gone up exponentially in the last couple of decades, we are all warped.
     
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  18. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ehhhh. If you look at his numbers, its $1.058b in direct subsidies, $429m in lost revenue for property tax breaks, and $6b-25b in lost revenue for not charging them rent on a 90 year lease of the land.

    The property tax one is a fair shout as something that is missed out on, but a vast majority of that is rent, which most properties wouldn't have anyways and is spread across 90 years.
    https://www.fieldofschemes.com/2025...anders-stadium-subsidy-be-an-investimagation/
     
  19. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    When the new Yankee Stadium was built between 2006-2009, it was the most expensive stadium ever built, at $2.3 billion. By 2031, it'll be down to #5, with SoFi having already more than doubled the record.
     
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  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are they going to move the fixture to forward to the day they're opening the stadium?
     
  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, is it that bad? I didn’t know.
    dude, the opening date is because they’re hosting a game the next day
     
  22. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Usually you open a stadium with a game.
     
  23. blacktide

    blacktide Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    It still looks like they have a lot to do in less than 3 months. I am assuming they have a schedule that shows the construction will be done and the stadium certified for occupancy in that timeframe.
     
  24. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ve seen nothing more than claims of bias which, yes, he is biased in favor of taxpayers, but nothing even close to dishonesty to the extent that he has no credibility. He regularly cites actual economists in addition to his own analysis.
     
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  25. usadcu

    usadcu Member

    Aug 25, 2005
    Alexandria, VA
    Just a note that while it is unlikely DC United would play more than an occasional game there, the public marketing of this stadium - and the rumor mill - have it as the potential regular home venue for the Spirit.
     

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