The MLS Stadium Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by fairfax4dc, May 20, 2016.

  1. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A casino is going to be built next to CitiField and Etihad Park:

     
  2. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Hope it fares better than Tropicana in Tampa for the next hurricane.
    Anyone know if this construction method or style is better?
     
  3. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Anyone know how many jobs this casino would create vs. the soccer stadium?
    I figure the casino is 24/7/365 so probably more over the course of the year.
    Will pay be better also?
    Besides housing and a I think a school, isn't a hotel in the works as well?
     
  4. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Lions v Christians will have em lining up from here to The Pantheon I tell ya Vespasian. And did I tell you about my stylish little two wheeled chariot? I'll name it right after you."
     
  6. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  7. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Trips to both stadiums should be fun when the whole Willets Points redevelopment is finished.
     
  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you consider watching the Mets fun. ;)
     
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  9. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What’s not fun about watching them collapse late in the season? :D
     
  10. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's check in on the work being done to upgrade BMO Field for the World Cup:

     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to the tweets they're temporary seats because of a road but they don't look like they're over a road, they look like they're over parking spaces.

    Canada could really do with a national soccer stadium. Montreal has the dome and Vancouver has BC Place, the ocean and the mountains.
     
  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    There is a definitely a road in the picture. It is very close to the existing stadium. There is a strip of grass between it and the parking lot.
     
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  13. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oof. I understand and appreciate the concept and the nod to Birmingham's past, but I just can't get on board with the actual rendering. There's something cartoonish about it that makes it look like an AI-generated monstrosity.
     
  14. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NFL reportedly adopting standards for artificial surfaces. The tests described sound familiar with rotation, rebound, and player/surface interaction tests. Phase in over two years.

    Might improve conditions in a few shared stadiums a bit. I think they've been lax on ongoing testing and maintenance.
     
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  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not going to help Vancouver or Portland. Charlotte's turf is a couple of years old and Seattle have a deal to maintain and update their field for soccer.

    Also we can't assume any changes NFL make will be good for soccer. Maybe they don't want ball to bounce. I guess in the longer term they stand to make money renting their stadiums out for soccer matches. Hybrid would be better for everyone.
     
  16. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For those that do not know, Scotts/Miracle Grow is based in Marysville, OH, which is about 30 min NE of the Columbus outer belt. And early Crew sponsor.
     
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  17. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For NFL, adopting new standards for artificial turf is not going to address the fact that it is scientifically proven to increase player injuries. They can all afford to at least have a natural grass field and most can install a hybrid grass field. As an example, unless they invent tear away blades/subsurface on the artificial grass, there isn't a way to improve the player/surface interaction in a way that would decrease player injuries

    This is just the NFL trying to slap a bandaid on a problem and acting like it fixes the issue when it doesn't do anything.

    Also, on a side note, the above comment about scientifically proven to increase player injuries is only for American football and not soccer. It has been a few years since I've looked into it, but last time I checked, there wasn't evidence that artificial turf increase player injuries. The injuries on turf were different than what was grass, but it didn't increase the overall injury rates, or games lost.
     
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  20. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seattle's deal is that the Seahawks will help pay to replace the FieldTurf once every 5 years and that the Sounders would be responsible to pay for any replacements outside of that timeframe unless the Seahawks agree. 5 years is WAY too long to wait to replace the FieldTurf as it tends to look and play horrible after 2-3 seasons depending on how often the field gets used for non-Seahawks/Sounders events.
     
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  21. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Not so much more as more serious. 0.2 more total injuries per game in the 2021 & 2022 seasons in the NFL (718 total injuries - 386 turf, 332 grass). That's it.

    The real difference is season ending injuries, the only area that had a statistically significant difference, where turf had a much higher incidence rate. The gigantic outlier was ACL injuries on turf compared to grass.

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11363235/
     
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  22. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That means more advertisements with a Scottish accent. Anything with a Scottish accent is awesome:

     
  23. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
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  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Come on New York!
    Wow. Garber speaks and BC cowers.

    Just kidding. They had a 6 race race-day in October with just 3 horses per race. The kicker though was ending the tax substitutes gleaned from casino betting.

    The casino has been acquired by the Tsleil-Waututh Nation.
     

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