The MLS Stadium Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by fairfax4dc, May 20, 2016.

  1. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Hmmm another thought - the CWC is also a FIFA event. Will FIFA be this strict about field sizes? If so we might need to use some SSS, as it seems NFL stadiums struggle to fit the requirements without major renovations.
     
  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    12 of the US's 14 biggest stadiums were built in the 1920s, which may explain why they didn't take the World Cup into account.
     
  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the crowd for Wydad v Auckland City will fit into a USL League 1 stadium.
     
  4. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Because it is a way to justify any public money/support. More events means it won't be a white elephant. Bigger events means it brings people to the city/area.

    It seems the only time the pitch width rule is actually enforced is the Mens WC. So if you are a football team owner, are you going to reduce the premium seats or make the premium seats gather away from the action for 5-6 games once every 40 years? Especially when the new premium boxes are at field level. For some teams that 1-3 different stadiums.
     
  5. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    That one could be played at the local park lol
    But i meant some of the bigger games. As you are seeing, almost every stadium, new and old needs renovations to fit a 75 yard wide field.
     
  6. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Well, would anyone actually notice if the on field suite was 7 yards further?
     
  7. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Yes, I am obviously talking about those, right?
     
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  8. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I assume yes, otherwise they would have actually tried to comply with the FIFA regulations.
     
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  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well what else are you talking about? The biggest stadiums built since 1970 are:
    AT&T
    Arrowhead
    Mile High
    Bank of America
    NRG
    Mercedes-Benz
    M&T
    SoFi
    Raymond James
    Nissan
    Lumen Field
    Levi's
     
  10. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If this is the 1996 Olympics, you’re really stretching the definition of “a few years ago,” plus it’s the Olympics.
     
  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude, he specifically is talking about SoFi.
     
  12. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the suite is 7 yards further, that eliminates 7 yards worth of regular seating rows behind it. The owner might notice that loss of capacity and the accompanying revenue.
     
  13. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Unless the stadium itself has room to be wider, in which case you just lose like 100 parking spots
     
  14. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any expansion of the total stadium footprint during construction, if it is even possible on the parcel, adds to the materials and construction costs.
     
  15. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Now the question becomes whether that costs more or less than these 50 million dollar renovations required to host world cup matches.
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Give Stan Kroenke a call and ask him why he deliberately designed a stadium with a field too narrow for tournament or MLS soccer then changed his mind over 2026.
     
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  17. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can't get a FIFA sized field in Ohio Stadium. Not possible. Take it off the list.
     
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  18. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    The guesswork I've seen is that he assumed FIFA would let him get away with a 70 foot wide field because "most expensive stadium in the world", and FIFA didn't budge.
     
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  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, he knew what he was doing.
     
  20. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Nice, I guess I don't have to call him anymore, you already got the scoop!
     
  21. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    A bit more off topic than usual, but did anyone notice that almost all the German stadiums are seemingly a part of some large parks? None are surrounded by parking or in the middle of urban settings like pretty much anywhere else. Just found that somewhat interesting.
     
  22. Crewster

    Crewster Member+

    Jan 28, 2005
    Worthington
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I attended the World Cup in Germany in 2006. I had tickets to games in Kaiserslautern and Nuremburg. In Kaiserslautern, the stadium is within walking distance of the downtown train station. In Nuremburg, you can catch the train downtown, and the first stop is the stadium.
     
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  23. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Many stadiums in Europe are like that; in a park-like setting or a residential area. Their public transportation is much better than in the U.S. which is heavily car-centric, partly due to the physical size of the nations you're comparing.
     
  24. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    Regarding the latter, Melbourne's stadiums (including the rugby/soccer stadium and the MCG) are easily walk-able from the CBD (city center), and also have trams stopping nearby.
     
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  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All the Bundesliga stadiums are near rail lines. German football has a very different history to, for instance, England. Soccer was amateur until 1963, so many of the older stadiums were multi-purpose ampitheaters built by cities.

    A bunch were built for the 1974 World Cup (or in one case the 1972 Olympics). I think at one point most of the stadiums in the Bundesliga had running tracks, or did it just seem like that? Some have been rebuilt since but close to or at the old location.
     
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