The MLS Stadium Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by fairfax4dc, May 20, 2016.

  1. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The big issue in the Sixers' arena fight isn't about money. It's about NIMBYism.
     
  2. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yea it seems a lot of the residents in Chinatown don’t want the area built. Personally I’m skeptical the arena will ever become a reality.
     
  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can they build a temporary rink on the field at Subaru Stadium? It may get a bit chilly in the winter.
     
  4. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It seems to be a thing now that every NBA-NHL owner/team wants their own arena.
    Coyotes and Suns couldn't share, Coyotes get an arena, leave it and may be heading elsewhere
    Clippers go and build a new place- looks amazing, but in my opinion- wrong area- a transit desert.
    Nets and Islanders new different arena. Nets, like Suns, built areas with poor hockey sitelines. Why?
    If NBA/NHL seasons are about 40 home games + playoffs, how do these arenas pencil out for a 365 day year?
    There are just not enough concerts or other things to fill the calendar and when you have multiple arenas in some towns, the events are even more spread out. This is all becoming a little too much.

    On the other hand, MLS HAD to get its own smaller better places to make the game better and the team financially strong. To me, quite a different set of issues.
     
  5. oknazevad

    oknazevad Member

    New York Red Bulls
    Oct 24, 2005
    North Jersey
    Well, in the case of Barclays making it a basketball-centric arena was to save money. The original plans (by Frank Gehry) were for an arena that could host hockey properly, but the decision was made to reduce the building's footprint to save costs. The same is true for other NBA-first arenas (including Phoenix, which is ironically named the Footprint Center these days). A basketball arena can be smaller than a hockey arena.
     
    AlbertCamus and Night shift repped this.
  6. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Major Indoor Coed Soccer.
     
  7. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #6457 jaykoz3, Aug 28, 2023
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2023


     
    canammj, TrueCrew and SetPeace repped this.
  8. gray2cm

    gray2cm Member

    Aug 11, 2012
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    It's going to be a fun atmosphere there. Wonder how long until it's under water.
     
  9. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was in Chinatown on Sunday and I was walking with a couple of folks who were discussing it. I can sympathize with them. It's not as though Philly's Chinatown is extremely large.
     
    harrylee773 repped this.
  10. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I sympathize with them too. I'm not a fan of the arena proposal.
     
    harrylee773 repped this.
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It needs a closeable roof and water wings.
     
  12. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Freedom to Dream snorkeling and scuba diving water park! Otherwise o iwn as Disney: Atlantis!
     
    harrylee773 repped this.
  13. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    THIS is excellent. NY and MIA finally on their way to resolution and 2 more stadiums for me to visit !
    I think everyone agrees NE should be the next problem to resolve somehow.
    Put grass back in Charlotte and I will accept BofA stadium a bit longer.
    Soldier also gets a bye for a bit as its grass already.
    Portland would be perfect if grass went in.
    I just really dread the "turf& domes" stadiums. NE,SEA,ATL,VAN.....ugh

    ---
    I do find it interesting Messi appears to have agreed to place on plastic.
    Will have to see what his comments are afterwards
     
    edcrocker repped this.
  14. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least replace the old rubber pellet turf with the new coconut turf.
    https://gazette.com/sports/weidner-...cle_02e3f180-a777-11eb-9591-1f94046d3e52.html
     
    edcrocker repped this.
  15. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe he's already had comments to the effect of "I grew up training and playing on plastic. No problem."
     
    Kejsare repped this.
  16. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not MLS, but close:

     
  17. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    And in NWSL news, the new 15k KC Current stadium is nearly done...



    https://www.instagram.com/p/CxZF7I5PWhd

    And the new Boston franchise will be refurbishing the White Stadium to an 11k complex...

    https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2023/09/20/nwsl-set-for-return-to-boston/
     
    GunnerJacket, canammj, SetPeace and 4 others repped this.
  18. blacktide

    blacktide Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    To be clear, the Oakland Roots received the ok to enter into an exclusive negotiating agreement to negotiate a 10-year lease. It is good news, but work still has to be done before the stadium is approved.

    Oakland Roots and Soul SC Receive Go-Ahead on Exclusive Negotiation Agreement with the City of Oakland and County of Alameda for Malibu Lot Stadium - Oakland Roots SC
     
  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In today's article about what went wrong between Oakland and the A's, Earthquakes and A's owner John Fischer complains about the Earthquakes' stadium already being outdated..

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/38442355/story-how-all-went-south-las-vegas

    This seems like a silly complaint considering that MLS teams were adding premium seats and boxes to stadiums when San Jose built their stadium and the reason why PayPal doesn't have them is because Fisher went cheap on the stadium rather than dropping the big bucks like LAFC, St. Louis, and Austin did.
     
    oknazevad, Kejsare, sitruc and 4 others repped this.
  20. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    -------------------------
    Hope Oakland can make this work. Yes, it's the second division, but it is professional and you have lost 3 other franchises, so go with what you can get. Teams seem well received in Oakland, this would solve their bouncing between 2 stadiums in 2 cities. I googled the area, can't find a map where this would go. The existing complex has BART and Amtrak station(s), how close would this be to where they want to put the stadium? Much better transit access than current 2 stadiums.

    Since designed with soccer in mind, could be cool to have a Bay Area soccer tourney with college teams as a pre-season thing just with state schools.. Cal, SJS, SFSU, CSEB
     
  21. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    -----------
    I thought the lower (usually empty) portions of the stadium deck was the luxury seats?
    In an area of wealth like Silicon Valley, seems a farce they can't make this work.
    A second team is coming in to pay rent also.
    The owner is scum.
     
  22. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ---------------------
    I like the Boston stadium project- in town, saving a classic old stadium
    Not sure on the KC project- will this team fill this place all the time?
    Great to see, actually better location than the Sporting's stadium- closer to downtown.
    Isn't their a casino and extension of the KC streetcar involved with this?
    I guess much like the USMNT team playing at MLS SSS, the USWNT can start playing at NWSL stadiums also.
     
  23. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I agree, it's farcical of them to cry about their stadium lacking amenities, when they CHOSE to spend what they spent on it. They had opportunities to add those revenue drivers in when they built the place....
     
  24. blacktide

    blacktide Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    That is a great article. It is primarily about the A's and really captures the problem with Fisher's ownership. He worked for years to get the Oakland solution close to the finish line and then chooses a poorly planned franchise move to a small lot with a 3-year lead time in the smaller LV media market?! Doubling ticket prices while gutting the roster?! Getting the relocation fee waived while he collects his revenue sharing from other MLS owners who are trying?! Fisher and Kaval, as his mouthpiece, look like a joke.

    As other's have pointed out, complaining about PayPal Park's lack of amenities is hypocritical when he made the decision on what amenities to build and omit! He could add more and update the Park if he wanted. There is room on the end with the bar to expand if they want more seats. But since they are not selling out the seats they have, that doesn't seem to be too smart.

    Really hoping Fisher sees the best path here is to work with a group/person looking to buy the A's who will keep the team in Oakland and to sell the Quakes to an owner that sees the potential of the Bay Area's soccer market and invests in the team, both stadium and roster, as befits the 6th biggest media market in the US.
     
  25. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you look at the satellite view, it's the triangular lot south of the Coliseum complex lot, across a small creek and along Joe Morgan Way. It's called the Malibu Lot because it used to be a Malibu Grand Prix go-kart track that closed in the 90s. After that it became overflow parking for the Raiders.

    From BART, people can walk across the Coliseum lot to get there, and the Coliseum lot on the arena side would be used for parking.
     

Share This Page