The MLS Stadium Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by fairfax4dc, May 20, 2016.

  1. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Lord no. keerypes.
     
  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe NYC could go for an exclusive, boutique stadium full of the sort of people that pay $20k to watch Liza Minelli or Barbara Streisand croak through some 50 year-old hits. A thousand people paying $750 is worth the same as 20,000 people paying $50 each and takes up a lot less space. :whistling:
     
  3. SabreKhan

    SabreKhan Member+

    Jun 25, 2007
    United States
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Theoretically, a soccer pitch would fit on a single Manhattan city block. Given the right set of circumstances, you could put one on the roof of a building, and have the stands on the surrounding buildings' rooftops. Nowadays, wouldn't even have to be fake grass. You'd need lots of spare balls, though...
     
  4. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm a little surprised that isn't happening already. Considering the price tag that's already being spent to get these buildings built, solar panels seem like they would be chump change compared to the overall bill.
     
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  5. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My post was based on a tweet (that the deal has fallen apart) but that turned out to be misleading so I deleted my post, but not before it was captured for a reply.

    The vote thing was accurate. There does appear to be a hold up some of the agreements, but they are not actually dead, just held up.

    Chris Campbell, @SoupinNYC27 on Twitter, is the most clued in person on this project. He clarified the misleading tweet I referenced which was made by another journalist.
     
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  6. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are pitches on top of Chelsea Piers.

    Or there's:
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  7. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    United got a grant and had some outside groups do it so they paid nothing. Of course the installation got delayed because of the last POTUS, but it eventually went in.
     
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  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not going to go smoothly. Nothing in NYC goes smoothly. And bribery doesn't work like it used to. If de Blasio got the best seats in the house like Giuliani got at Yankee Stadium questions would be asked.
     
  9. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. oknazevad

    oknazevad Member

    New York Red Bulls
    Oct 24, 2005
    North Jersey
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  11. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
  12. SabreKhan

    SabreKhan Member+

    Jun 25, 2007
    United States
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, I sus
    I suspect, given the cost of real estate in New York, that a pitch in the middle of the harbor would actually be an idea worth exploring there. That one at Marina Bay seats 27,000 according to Wikipedia. Plenty big enough for MLS. I mean, take out the road in between the stands and the pitch, and it's not half bad. It's only half a stadium, but it's not half bad.
     
  13. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But land facing the water is twice as expensive!
     
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  14. whereiend

    whereiend Member

    Dec 26, 2014
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  15. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Awesome fans and love the green everywhere from lights flashing green when scoring to the glowing green drums, etc!
     
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  16. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's definitely the next iteration of the development of these LED floodlights.
     
  17. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
  18. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Ugh. All of these light "effects" from turning them off/on to this color stuff is starting to make my life hell.

    The end of the game at MLS Cup 2018 in Atlanta was the first time I ran into it.

    Everybody wants historic lasting images of the emotion at the big moment. Turning off the lights or making everything green isn't going to make that possible.

    Woohoo! Way to go Atlanta!

    AJM15276.JPG !
     
  19. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It wasn't just Atlanta. All stadiums are going to it. The new LED lights afford teams the ability to do all sorts of things with the lights so you knew it was bound to happen. They've become an extension of the myriad of video boards that teams now have in a way. Even minor league sports are starting to be infested with it (my nearest Single A baseball team has them now).

    It's actually a novelty to go to SD Loyal games at Torero Stadium where they've yet to install the new LED lights so they're just... lights.
     
  20. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dear City Members -

    I want to personally share and update you on the status of NYCFC’s efforts to deliver our stadium in the South Bronx. We are disappointed that a recent land assembly vote – which was a central element to the stadium plans- did not take place. It is especially disappointing given the efforts of the Community Board to bring the vote forward. This latest development, however, in no way deters our efforts to build a permanent home for our First Team and fans like you who are the lifeblood of our Club.

    As you are well aware, NYC is one of the most complicated and expensive real estate markets to build new construction. Please be assured that we are undeterred and will continue our work to bring this transformational project to the City. The Club remains ready and willing to explore alternative options outside the South Bronx. As always, NYCFC remains committed to working with the community and elected officials to deliver a privately funded, soccer-specific stadium for fans of the club across New York City and beyond.

    We know the road to our future home has not been easy and we are grateful for your unwavering dedication.

    Sincerely-
    Brad Sims [NYCFC CEO]
     
  21. blacktide

    blacktide Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    So does the the part that says they are “ready and willing to explore alternative options outside the South Bronx” mean NYCFC is giving up on a site near Yankee Stadium? Is there any hope this deal can still be salvaged? What other parts of NYC are even possibilities? If this means that are starting over from scratch, what does the time line look like? 5 more years?

    To me, this sounds like a pretty big setback. Hopefully a solution can be found that does not take forever and result in a less than first class stadium.
     
  22. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Before getting too upset I would like to know why the land assembly vote didn't take place. Presumably one of the property owners didn't show up.
     
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here we go, from Faux Business:

    NYC, Nuveen strike out with Yankees over new soccer stadium and hotel/retail development
    Yankees: City and Nuveen refused 'to do what they agreed to do

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/...ccer-stadium-and-hotel-retail-development.amp

    'An eleventh-hour dispute between bondholders, New York City and the New York Yankees appears to have doomed a long-anticipated, $1 billion project that would have resulted in the construction of a new professional soccer stadium, low-income housing and a broader redevelopment of one of the nation’s poorest neighborhoods, FOX Business has learned.

    The dispute involves around 5,000 parking spaces the city and bondholders agreed to give the Yankees as part of the development project – a complex, multi-year effort to bring economic growth to the poor South Bronx neighborhood Yankee Stadium calls home.

    The development included a new stadium for New York City’s professional soccer team, New York City F.C., a hotel and retail stores on grounds that currently house parking lots and garages for Yankee games that the city is mandated to provide under a 2007 agreement with the team. It would be financed with private money arranged by a consortium that includes a housing developer and the owners of the soccer team.

    Bonds issued in 2007 to build the parking facilities have fallen into default in recent years, while the parking garages owe the city millions of dollars in back taxes. The consortium also agreed to pay $50 million to restructure the defaulted debt.

    For years, city officials and bondholders have said they were eager to find a solution to the Yankee parking imbroglio and until last week, all indications were that they had one.

    But Yankee officials say the city and bondholders have reneged on a key piece of the deal that has put the entire project on hold indefinitely and possibly forever. That deal involved a guarantee of first-class parking for its fans even as the team agreed to reduce the city’s initial 9,000 plus parking space commitment.

    A term sheet providing details of the agreement between bondholders, the city’s Economic Development Corporation (EDC) and the Yankees were reviewed by FOX Business.

    "I’m very disappointed," said Yankee President Randy Levine, a former prosecutor and top city official under former Mayor Rudy Giuliani who was the architect of the redevelopment proposal. "This would have gone a long way to salvaging the bonds plus we were going to spend a billion dollars in private money to revitalize this area that would produce thousands of good paying jobs.'

    Continued...
     
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  24. oknazevad

    oknazevad Member

    New York Red Bulls
    Oct 24, 2005
    North Jersey
    That piece was already ripped apart as bad tabloid nonsense by others. Plain fact is that they just have to wait to September. It's just negotiating in public.
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah typical Noo Yawk.
     

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