The MLS Stadium Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by fairfax4dc, May 20, 2016.

  1. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Location is a factor, a big one. KC 's success is also attributable to the FO being engaged and effective within the community. They permeate.

    Effective, engaged ownership can overcome a so-so/poor location (KC). And a disinterested FO can struggle with a good one (Houston).

    But a disengaged ownership + a poor location hurts for certain. This has been the case in Columbus & Chicago for a while. Colorado & NE as well.

    All other things being equal, attendance is a lagging indicator when team performance increases. It is usually the year after you are giod you get the bounce.

    I am willing to bet the same thing occurs with ownership being engaged. If you have had zero community presence for a decade or more, it takes more than one year to turn it around. It is like a big ship on the water, she don't turn on a dime.
     
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  2. footballfantatic

    Mar 27, 2008
    Ontario, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great point, I would love to see some data on this! The year after a turnaround and then two years after.
     
  3. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep and Sporting hasn't played there in years....
     
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  4. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep and the Burn/FCD hasn't played there in years...
     
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  5. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    My point was the oversized nature of the stadium, trust me, grass in good.
    We are already going into another NFL stadium in Charlotte, while grass, may turn out to be turn large.
    And some of the NFL ticket holders not happy with the changes being made to the stadium to accommodate soccer- check out local Charlotte articles with that.
    Also interesting in Nashville the former mayor who set up the agreement with MSL is now worried MLS could pull the team and that it makes it look bad for Nashville in relations to businesses who may want to relocated their if the city doesn't honor its promises. More to come out of Nashville for sure.
     
  6. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  7. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow.. That is amazing....
     
  8. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Field of Schemes isn't exactly what I would call an objective observer.
     
  9. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    But Neil generally has his facts in order. And frankly, he's oddly neutral in this piece - merely pointing out that the small parcel is a strange hill to die on for both sides.
     
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  10. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Authored by Dr. Quincy Adams Wagstaff himself...
     
  11. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Wait was that their real name? 'Cause that's pretty funny if so.
     
  12. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seattle Pilots? Yes. That was the name of Seattle's first MLB team. A nod to Seattle's maritime history (the owner was a part time harbor pilot) and its aviation history. The team's logo was a boat's steering wheel with wings. :)

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Raleigh!
     
  14. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Just kinda funny that they made the pilot episode but...
     
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  15. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My VA hometown had a Carolina League team that was called the Peninsula Pilots and were affiliated with the Seattle Mariners for about 3 seasons in the 90s.
     
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  16. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After one season Bud Selig bought them and turned them into the Milwaukee Brewers
     
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  17. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because the Seattle owners couldn't make payroll, so Selig bought the franchise out of bankruptcy proceedings.
     
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  18. CrankyAvenger

    CrankyAvenger Member

    Minnesota United FC
    United States
    Oct 24, 2019
    I've always found that amazing (I'm a native Milwaukeean, so I've heard that story since 2nd grade): MLB awards an expansion franchise to some who simply cannot last more than a season. Whenever that happened in the NASL, and when MLS eliminated Tampa Bay and Miami, it was held up as a sign that "Americans just don't like soccer," not "These particular businessmen f'd up big time..."
     
  19. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And they also had "scrambled eggs" on the visor of their hats, similar to what airline pilots have.

    Of the 4 1969 expansion teams Seattle and Montreal did things very differently in the uniform department. The Expos had a white front to their hats, with red sides and a blue panel in the back. At that time, all the teams had solid colored hats. The Padres also had brown, which no team had used since the St. Louis Browns, who eventually became the Orioles.
     
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  20. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A good deal of Jim Bouton's book Ball Four deals with his being part of the Seattle Pilots.
     
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  21. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    See "Kansas City Scouts, NHL"

    Hint: We know them now as the New Jersey Devils.
     
  22. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I love that site; it points out that the middle, on stadium public financing, is oddly insane. Too many cities/counties/states paying for far too luxurious palaces; for the extremely wealthy, is totally askew. MLS stadiums are comparatively pauper, and so their expense is more justifiable. Perhaps that is why Field of Schemes is more neutral Nashville FC's potential stadium.
     
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  23. Egbert Sousé

    Egbert Sousé Member

    NYCFC
    May 25, 2013
    nyc
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    via the Colorado Rockies. :thumbsup:
     
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  24. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rockie Hockey!!!!
     
  25. Dodgeboy

    Dodgeboy Member

    MN United
    May 4, 2008
    Gunflint Trail
    I'm sure nothing will ever top the weirdness that is:
    Oakland/California (golden) Seals --> Cleveland Barrons --> 1/2 of the MN North Stars (merged) --> San Jose Sharks (un-merged, took the ownership with 'em)
     
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