The "Messi: the best player in the world. Is it even up for discussion?" thread

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by jfcule, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
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  2. Danko

    Danko Member+

    Barcelona
    Serbia
    Mar 15, 2018
    We played pretty well today. We really could have put five or six past those guys.
     
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  3. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Lionel Messi completed 13 take-ons against Alaves, a personal best in a Liga match across the past five seasons. Just two away from his all-time Liga record.
     
  4. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Even his pace is decreased, his dribbling is still god like. But there must be something wrong with his shooting, including his set piece (though i think now opponents just think every way to stop Messi's freekick, none in history can bring that much danger.).

    If he is not back to his finishing pre covid level, this season will be trophyless again.
     
  5. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Dribbling is something where team mates doesn't really matter, so output can remain constant, no matter how bad the team is. Few chance's he's missed lately I wouldn't worry too much. He was probably just surprised to get a good chance for once without creating it himself. Almost scored yesterday from free kick, but defender just about cleared it from the goal line.
     
  6. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    We were a man up for a good portion of the 2nd half.
     
  7. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    His shooting is really bad now.
     
  8. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I only remember the bad shot against Juventus, but even there the pass was behind him. Then again I didn't watch the game yesterday after Neto brainfart.
     
  9. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    In last 2 seasons, he has been accustomed to play in midfield and rarely in situation where he's being setup to score near or inside the box. He used to have Neymar, Xavi, Alves , Iniesta and Suarez who always provide him a close passing option almost everytime.

    As of Sept 2020, here are players with who provides most assist for Messi...

    Suarez = 46
    Iniesta = 44
    Alves = 42
    Neymar = 36
    Xavi = 35

    That's 200+ goals for Messi which directly assisted by those 5 players , not even counting their contributions on build up play that leads to other Messi's goals.

    Now who Messi has? Young Fati, Pedri, Dembele, Griezzman...
     
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  10. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Portugal right back Nelson Semedo is one of only a handful of players to have played alongside both of the world superstars who are globally recognised as the best in the world - Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi. And the matter of who is better was put to him by ESPN.

    Semedo has had an impressive season at the Spanish giants, playing 9 of their La Liga matches so far this campaign as well as featuring three times in the Champions League, playing alongside Messi 10 times in the process, while he has also played for Portugal 8 times in his career, playing on the same side as Ronaldo in half of those outings.

    But who does the 25-year old attacking fullback think is better of the two?

    When that question was put towards him by ESPN, his answer proved relatively inconclusive, starting off by saying “Messi is from another planet, he’s the difference so far,” before quickly adding “along with Cristiano Ronaldo.”
     
  11. Danko

    Danko Member+

    Barcelona
    Serbia
    Mar 15, 2018
    Still doesn't change how many incredible chances we created. Out frontmen have gone AWOL as far as finishing and that's cost us mightily so far.
     
  12. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I found 14...

    Fernando Gago (Real Madrid and Argentina)
    Gabriel Heinze (Manchester United and Argentina)
    Gerard Pique (Manchester United and Barcelona)
    Andre Gomes (Barcelona and Portugal)
    Angel Di Maria (Real Madrid and Argentina)
    Carlos Tevez (Manchester United and Argentina)
    Paulo Dybala (Juventus and Argentina)
    Gonzalo Higuain (Juventus and Argentina)
    Henrik Larsson (Barcelona and Manchester United)
    Nelson Semedo (Barcelona and Portugal)
    Ezequiel Garay (Real Madrid and Argentina)
    Deco (Barcelona and Portugal)
    Martin Caceres (Barcelona and Juventus)
    Arthur Melo (Barcelona and Juventus)
     
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  13. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Well done ... I just copied and pasted that quotation of Twitter though ;)
     
  14. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    TitoTata has very large hands
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  15. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
  16. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Broke Josef Bican's long lasting world record of most goals in a national league. Only three players have scored more than 400 goals in a national league.

    447 Lionel Messi in Spain (04-20)
    446 Josef Bican in Czechoslovakia (37-55)
    410 Jimmy McGrory in Scotland (22-38)
     
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  17. ShortyMac

    ShortyMac Member+

    Barcelona
    Apr 10, 2011
    Ohio, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How wrong that would have been to see Messi do that tribute with another club. Had to be with Barca. The world will be crying with sadness when Leo hangs it up. We are privileged.
     
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  18. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Two goals from Pele's all time one club scoring record (643).

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  19. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
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  20. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Recreating the Hand of God I would call a fluke, recreating also the Goal of the Century once in a lifetime. But also recreating the only goal for Newell's Old Boys when you're wearing the original shirt underneath... That's some tribute.
     
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  21. Danko

    Danko Member+

    Barcelona
    Serbia
    Mar 15, 2018
    Honestly I think Messi's motivation is largely lacking these days and it's sad to see. If there is nothing we can do to change that for the better we should trade him and get some much needed money and sizable payroll savings. It's a win-win really. He deserves better and it would get our club out of the financial hole.
     
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  22. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  23. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    I know he’s a special player BUT It is odd to see every Barca player chasing back towards goal but Messi just standing there ..
     
  24. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    He can already sign a contract in Jan. and then leave for free at end of season. We will just offload his wages if he wants.
     

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