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I’ve watched countless good movies in the 6.2 to 6.4 range.

 

The President's Analyst, 6.8!

Recommend. James Coburn as a shrink, Cold War camp-but-not. Favorite line, "Please, no Russian, I'm spying!"

 

Dirty Dozen got a 7.7! []

 

Based on the 1916 Jersey shore shark attacks. BTW - where was your MIL that summer?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/ente...2/was-jaws-based-on-a-true-story/74072918007/

 

A-number-one!

 

Oh no. Not again.
I'm getting too old for that shit.

 

That took me a sec.

 

You'd only get it if you're OLD, or watch a million movies like Belgian Guy.

 

It blows my mind that none of these Suicide Squad type movies spent a second trying to learn what makes that movie so incredible (just watched it last night for the 100th time). The comic writers understood that but these film producers? Can't be bothered and it's so aggravating.

 

I'll bet you cried like the rest of us when Jimmy Brown was dropping grenades down the air vent and then got wasted!

 

She was still in her casket waiting to be resurrected like her master!

 

The Pelican Brief only got a 4.6!

I would think that a film about small Pelicans wudda scored higher!

 

It got down voted for being inaccurate. The pelicans were wearing boxers.

 

Were the involved in the rebellion?

 

And you wudda been wrong. I hoid in on the grapevine that it was about the Pelicans being in the Western Conference instead of the Eastern!

 

There is a noticeable recency bias in IMDB, etc. I would also argue that the film (and music) industry has changed significantly in the last 10-15 years (actually 20-25 in the case of the music industry) and now studios are all in on focus group-tested sequels, prequels, and reboots. They perceive that they have too much to lose by taking risks on unproven source material but, as it turns out, they're basically guaranteeing that they will leave money on the table because the appetite for that kind of fare is going way down. Add to that the streaming phenomenon which has given everyone the attention span of a gnat and you can see why the film industry isn't doing so well these days.

Writers love to work themes into their movies, but really overlook the importance of character development.

You are all free to get the hell off my lawn now.

 

The film industry has always preferred sequels, prequels, and reboots. An Affair to Remember (1954) is a shot by shot remake of Love Affair (1939).

The Wizard of Oz that we all know was something along the lines of the 13th attempt at a movie off the book series and the 3rd off that book alone.

A Star is Born has been made 4 times now (1937, 1954, 1976, 2018).

The peak time period for unknown projects was the VHS/DVD rental era as movies could fail at the box office but develop a following. Now movies get put on a subscription streaming service so quickly that there's no secondary market for them to make money on before they're just part of the churn.

The change isn't either industry, it's the secondary markets of physical product sales and rentals.

 

Just watched all of those. It turns out, the 1937 version is a remake of a 1931 movie called What Price Hollywood, which David O Selznick thought should have been better. According to this book anyway...

 

I think it's a difference of degree. There have always been reboots, remakes, etc, but if you look at the big tentpole films of the last few years, almost all of them have fallen into this category.

Here's the top ten from last year:



The only movie that isn't a sequel is Wicked.

Here's the top ten from 1994:



Not a single sequel. Furthermore, while I haven't seen every movie from last year's list, I don't think any of them would stack up qualitatively with the 1994 list.

You're totally right about the secondary market for sure. Shawshank is a perfect example of this - didn't do anything at the box office but achieved legendary status thanks to the rental market. No way that happens today. Same for Blade Runner, which holds up really well (I just watched it again a couple days ago).

 

Isn't it a prequel to The Wizard of Oz?

 

I think the lack of a secondary market is what killed the out of nowhere film. Putting a movie on streaming, as part of a subscription, 6 weeks after it was in theaters is crazy. Then you've got the streamers putting a lot of those types of movies directly onto their service just to have more content.

Amazon Prime Video aired 6 original movies prior to Covid. They've done 26 this year, only 11 in English, with 5 more confirmed for release.

 

Well after the 1st one who needed another. I'm still shining brightly!