Alert: The Maps Thread

That looks good.

 

The 1920s?

This would be a great movie:

Baldy Jack Rose bio

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldy_Jack_Rose

 

Widmer seems weird for Oregon, maybe because I’ve never had it. I’d go with Deschutes Brewery. And for Washington Rainier seems more iconic. California is right on though.

 

If you grew up in the 70s, then Rainier or Olympia would definitely be iconic for Washington (Rainier certainly had the more memorable TV ads, while Olympia was the "home of the Artesians"). Red Hook, while not iconic in my mind, is certainly more readily available today.

 

As a non imbiber I always kept a 6 pack of Horlachers on hand for company to convince them to join me!

 

Oddly, Iran is not #1.

 

Yeah that’s true, I mostly see Rainier in the PNW (though I did get it in Humboldt recently). Red Hook just makes me think of when I first discovered microbrews in the 90’s, don’t think I’ve had one in like 25 years, though I do see it around.

 

For a microbrewery that’s gone bigger time they’ve maintained a pretty high quality.

There used to be a ski rental shop in South Lake Tahoe called Don Cheepo’s, and they would tap a pony keg of Deschutes Black Butte Porter every afternoon for people returning their skis to have a cup. I always made sure to bring my skiless friends to rent there. This was 25 years ago, I wonder if they could get away with that now.

 

Russian River is great, though I have to go easy on IPA’s these days. I’ve still never had the patience to go try Pliny the Younger during its release, I’ve never been fond of waiting in long lines for things.

And no I had no idea that Sierra Nevada had a brewery there. They’re another microbrew that’s kept a high quality despite going bigger time. Their pale ale is one of my favorite everyday drinking beers.

 

Carbon emissions by country

 

Yeah it was easy to find back then, I drank a lot of Winterhook and ESB during that time. This was because Redhook had an east coast Brewery in Portsmouth NH in the 90s and early aughts.

Then when that Craft Brew Alliance came about they swapped Redhook with Cisco brewing a more local option (Nantucket) but eventually that closed as well.

 

They make the "Kirkland Lager" sold at Costco and it is excellent -- and a great deal if you shop there.

 

Yeah, but is it premium lager?

 

I had no idea, very good to know.

 

Yeah, they’re just across town. I’m not that into their beers at this point but their brewpub is pretty fun. I did the brewery tour there years ago when an old friend was visiting, it’s definitely worthwhile.

 

Keep watching that space though. It wasn't always the case. They've had different breweries make it in the past, and it hasn't always been great.

I always thought Full Sail would throw their hat in, as they aggressively expanded and then got pummeled as craft shrunk. They made excellent lagers for a good long while under the Session brand in those stubby Banquet bottles.

Deschuttes probably suffers from the same contraction though, and definitely have the infra to crank it out. They haven't been known for lagers, so it's good to hear they are pretty good. I may have to check Kirkland out.

Gordon Biersch/Matt Brewing has been making most of the Kirkland craft brands. They aren't amazing, but plenty decent. The Light Beer sucks ass though.

 

As for the craft breweries selling out to the big guys, a lot of these small owners are looking for the payday of what often was a shit-ton of stress and hard work to get these pretty massive businesses going. Getting bought out by a big brand doesn't necessarily mean that the quality of the beer changes, but they might end up getting less creative and fun. And then slowly, the changes tend to wear on the people who aren't corporate, the new owners sell it on to other new owners, and next thing you know, they shut down the pub and move operations elsewhere. Don't ask how I know this....

 

Back in the day here when people were tired of trolls, the the alternative to chase them away was "I like cheese"