The Manchester Derby 04-05 [R]

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Motterman, Nov 4, 2004.

  1. Scouse

    Scouse New Member

    Jun 17, 2002
    Manchester
    i wouldn't worry, he's kept his head in bigger derbies than this one.... :p
     
  2. bigtoga

    bigtoga Member

    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas, Texas
    Hell no, we don't! We need to be giving the scalping! We need to be the scalper, not the scalpee

    ;)
     
  3. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I think there is a real question as to Rooney's role when he starts alongside anyone but Ruud. Ruud is used to playing as a target and can find goals for himself when isolated in the box and will find opportunities from rebounds and other such occasions. In that situation Rooney basically plays attacking midfield almost and tries to be an outlet for the team's attacking movements and when he gets the ball he can create either by playing the ball to the wings, to Ruud, or taking on defenders by himself.

    What does he do when Ruud is not the striker he is paired with? Smith and Saha are decent at doing what Ruud does, but I feel that they need more of the ball to be effective. So perhaps in those games Scholes will have to play higher and closer to the opponents box. It leaves us more exposed, but to score goals without your best striker most teams would do the same. Another option would be to drop Scholes altogether and play Rooney behind Smith and Saha - but I am not sure if that would work. The reason I brought this up is that when Ruud is out alot of chances fall to Rooney, but fewer to the other players. Maybe that was just an anomaly though - I guess we will know the true strength of the team after more games together.
     
  4. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    You'd think at some point Rooney gets a rest. This would be his 4th game in the last week and a half. But SAF's said that Rooney doesn't need a rest yet.

    "I think Rooney needs games to be honest. He's only 18 years of age and he's been out for 96 days." - Sir Alex
     
  5. Acronym

    Acronym BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Nov 26, 2003
    Ol' blighty
    Ya no pre-season. First game against fener, prolly played on adrenalin.
     
  6. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    [result]
    Need a win to keep up with Chelski as they - **SHOCKING** - win 1-0 yet again at HOME over EVerton. At least Arse nearly fell on their face yet again in the league with a 1-1 result at Selhurst. Too bad CP didn't get the late win. WOuld've served Arse right after their late goal against Saints last week.

    Hey Wenger, when are you going to stop yappin' about Ruud and worry about your squad?
    [/result] :D
     
  7. Frankfurt Blue

    Sep 3, 2003
    Doytshlund
    I don't worry. In fact it amuses me how United fans, supporting a much bigger and more successful club (even though it isn't their local one ;) ), still keep on like you with this comment.
    It's a game. Friendly 'local' rivalry.
    And as for 30 years, how many other clubs havent won anything in a long time?

    <yawn>
     
  8. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    I agree. I'm looking forward to the derby with Liverpool!

    :cool:
     
  9. Acronym

    Acronym BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Nov 26, 2003
    Ol' blighty
    OK over 60% of season ticket holders live within 12 miles hows that sound?
     
  10. musicl

    musicl New Member

    Jan 9, 2004
    I predict a 4-2 victory for us with Wright-Phillips signing a contract to come to us at Christmas.
     
  11. SoccerFan8270

    SoccerFan8270 New Member

    Oct 7, 2003
    Pennsylvania
    United should get this one without much difficulty...3-1
     
  12. DirtyDTown

    DirtyDTown New Member

    Jun 25, 2004
    Dallas
    *sigh*

    The ole it only matters to the locals card.

    <yawn>
     
  13. FCDallas96

    FCDallas96 Member

    Aug 12, 2004
    Dallas
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any here miss the days gone by when Cantona and Kanchelskis use to rip Chiteh apart piece by piece? Three cheers for the scourge of Chiteh,
    Eric "The King of Old Trafford" Cantona!!!
     
  14. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Will be a close battle, tough match either way... too close to call imo. Hopefully playing at OT will give us a boost.
     
  15. Motterman

    Motterman Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "City's going down with a Russian on the wing...."
     
  16. pmannion

    pmannion Member
    Staff Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    Newfoundland
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    United:
    13 Roy Carroll
    5 Rio Ferdinand
    4 Gabriel Heinze
    2 Gary Neville
    27 Mikael Silvestre
    16 Roy Keane
    17 Liam Miller
    7 Cristiano Ronaldo
    18 Paul Scholes
    9 Louis Saha
    14 Alan Smith
     
  17. pmannion

    pmannion Member
    Staff Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    Newfoundland
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    City:
    David James 1
    Sylvain Distin 5
    Richard Dunne 22
    Willo Flood 44
    Danny Mills 18
    Paul Bosvelt 26
    Stephen Jordan 41
    Steve McManaman 20
    Antoine Sibierski 10
    Shaun Wright-Phillips 29
    Nicolas Anelka 39
     
  18. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
    Looks like Rooney is being benched for his own sake. I hope it works out!
     
  19. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    What? No Fowler? I'm soooo suprised. :)
     
  20. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    Is this Liam's first premiership start?
     
  21. pmannion

    pmannion Member
    Staff Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    Newfoundland
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    I'm pretty sure it is. I wish you would play him in the middle (preferably beside Keane), though the main thing is that he's getting matches. The lad isn't a winger, though I was very impressed with him v Prague. He has a great work rate. And he has been impressive in his Ireland matches, though isn't a starter for us yet.
     
  22. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    Report is that Rooney's got the flu.
     
  23. pmannion

    pmannion Member
    Staff Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    Newfoundland
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Match is underway.
     
  24. pmannion

    pmannion Member
    Staff Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    Newfoundland
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    United appeal for a penalty after Silvestre is held up in the box.

    Corner to United after a Ronaldo run.
     
  25. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    Sssssssssaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!
     

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