I never really watch the Man Show, but one of my roommates was watching it last night. I saw a segment where the guy with the enormous eye brows said, "To avoid confusion between soccer and football, I hereby declare that soccer will now be known as f@g-ball!" What a freaking tool.
The comment also can be offensive to the homosexual community, and I, while often finding the moronic quality and self-reflexive satire of the show worthy of a good laugh, was also quite put off by this "joke."
Ultimately, that's what it is, satire. The joke is not on soccer or gay people. The joke is on the joke itself. I wouldn't take it seriously.
Why must soccer fans have such thin skin? Jesus Christ, it's the friggin' MAN SHOW. Next time you watch it, remove the pole stuck up you-know-where and get ready to laugh a few times.
You seem to be begging the question rather than anything else. Thanks for that thought-provoking and articulate response; it adds a lot to the discussion in this thread.
JoBeck pretty much nails it. If the sport can't withstand the savage onslaught of 2nd rate comedians, then it's doomed. If its fans can't hear a jab at their sport without turning to bigsoccer for therapy, then they need help. And if it makes anyone feel better, post your poorly-worded, ill-conceived irate Emails here.
Musta been a rerun,since Kimmel's gone to ABC,I thought the show was done. Besides,most of the comedy was nothing more than filler between Juggy sightings-for me anyway. Unless the Juggies bothered you in which case- well,never mind,I might offend you,Mr.Light-in-the-loafers. (please note the at the top of this post indicating it's humorous and good-spirited nature.Live long and prosper,fellow earth traveller.)
1. They are running the last season which is already done filming, I believe. Kimmel had to finish that first. 2. It will actually stick around with two new guys. One is some comedian I had never heard of and they haven't cast the second guy the last time I read something on it. Should be pretty bad, IMHO. 3. For the original poster:
If we are not used to this by now, then we are in trouble....eventually when soccer catches on here in the us like it has in the rest of world...then we will have the last laugh...for now just blow it off and dont worry about it.... -PB20
Sage advice. If you really can't handle jibes like that one about soccer, then move to Europe or South America where people don't make them.
I heard Joe Rogan of Fear Factor will take the big eye-browed dude seat. I liked him in News Radio but he's no Adam Carrolla. And Jimmy Kimmel may be a B-lister, but he is a funny, charming B-lister that is dating Sara Silverman, a funny, attractive B-lister.
Joe Rogan is one of the hosts....don't judge him by Fear Factor or even News Radio. Joe is a hilarious stand-up comedian who definitly is held back by NBC from being his true self. The other host is a comedian named Doug Stanhope who is completly out of his skull. I can't explain him, so check out www.dougstanhope.com I will definitly give the Man Show a chance with these two. ObSoccerContent: Joe Rogan dislikes soccer....on his CD he does a whole bit about the English and soccer.
Good.. that's on CD I will go out and buy. I wonder if ESPN Radio will let me have a three hour slot where I do nothing but bash soccer by reading posts made on BigSoccer. Maybe Mike Segroves will co-host with me. Sachin
Ya, because we all know that soccer is the #1 sport everwhere else in the world other than the US. Or Canada. Or New Zealand. Or Australia. Or Japan. Or India. Or...
"The comment also can be offensive to the homosexual community, " who cares, its offensive to the soccer community and thats what matters!
Stanhope, that's the guy. And the thing I read before - I thinnk - had it down to Rogan or someone else. Whatever. The moment comments on shows like TMS become serious to some people is the moment the beatings should begin.
That's a really provocative statement, and I'd like you to follow up on it. Specifically, my disdain for their "joke" is not that the hosts were discrediting soccer, which is their prerogrative -- and is endemic of a larger American cultural perspective on soccer as somehow being effeminate. To get to the point, the hosts used a derogatory epithet, "f*g," which goes beyond a lighthearted attempt at humor. Using your logic and the logic of (Mr. Wankler) many of those on this thread, one should not take offense if Kibbel and Carrola had said, say, "we're going to rename basketball n*gg*rball," "we're renaming Serie A w*pball," or something incredibly offensive like that. Oh, but wait a second: we should be getting some thicker skin now, shouldn't we?
In my years, I have heard so many "soccer player = homosexual" statements that they don't even register to me anymore. If someone's hatred of our sport is such that they have to make broad generalizations on the sexual orientation of the participants, that is an issue they have to deal with, not me. I do not know on what level you are offended. It does not make a difference to me. If you are offended by Adam Carolla's statement, for whatever reason, that is your right. You mentioned the use of that epithet is offensive to the homosexual community. And you're right. But this isn't the politics thread, this is business and media, so I'm not about to get into a discussion of that. The original post referred to the anti-soccer sentiment of the statement. And it is the anti-soccer sentiment that I, and everybody else in this thread, have been addressing.
I grew up wrestling. I continue to be involve din the sport. I have heard my share of wrestler = ********* jokes. I usually just kicked their asses instead of whining like a little girl. But whatever floats your boat, hoss.
He he, you wore tights, dude. I saw that episode when it first came on and thought that line was pretty funny, but not as funny as a Kids In The Hall bit where two truckers were playing Trivial Pursuit. 1: "Who won the 1990 World Cup." 2: "A bunch of fairies in tight shorts." 1: (turns over card) "You're right!"