The Lowly Revs Fire Jay Heaps

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  1. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
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  2. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999



    Why do I doubt this?
     
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  3. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999


    I more readily believe this.

    The Drooler ... :rolleyes:
     
  4. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    While Heaps needed firing, it's only worthwhile if they raise the coaching bar at NE significantly.

    If they don't...well, too bad you can't fire Kraft. Because you're just rearranging the deck chairs....
     
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  5. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Unfortunate.
     
  6. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In other news Ben Olsen continues to coach D.C. United.
     
  7. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    You all realize they're just gonna promote Tom Soehn, right?
     
  8. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't say it wasn't deserved at this point, but I always liked the guy.
     
  9. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    A guy can be likeable and still be terrible at his job. It has always baffled me how the Krafts would wait so much to replace a guy with not great success (to say the least) having the patriots as a comparisson in the same backyard.
     
  10. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jay Heaps' Wikipedia page is already updated.
    I find it interesting that if you search for "Jay Heaps" and "New eNgland Revolution" on duck-duck-go, you get as many articles about his hiring as his firing in the first page of search results. I guess people didn't write about him very often...
     
  11. Blong

    Blong Member+

    Oct 29, 2002
    Midwest, the real one.
    Was Heaps terrible? He certainly wasn't great, and was having a bad year, but was he terrible, as in from day one and continuing through to today...?
     
  12. Namrog The Just

    Namrog The Just Member+

    L.A. Galaxy
    United States
    Jul 2, 2007
    Baltimore County, Maryland
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clearly
     
  14. Papillon Soo Soo

    Jan 17, 2012
    Wow, that would be a mediocre hire in the 1.0 era
     
  15. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    He was mediocre. Mediocrity shouldn't last for long on a professional team (in my humble opinion), again taking into account the success of their neighbors.
     
  16. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    At least Heaps has that Coach K reference.
     
  17. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    because savarese seems to smart to take such a rubbish job with a rubbish organization when he knows he can get a much better one.
     
  18. C-Rob

    C-Rob Member

    May 31, 2000
    Perhaps, but there is a history between Mike Burns (who somehow still has his job) and Savarese. They played together in both New England and (briefly) San Jose. Relationships matter a lot in American soccer, for better or worse.
     
  19. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No reason to rush. Honestly, the rest of the season can be done by an interim coach. But being the first organization out openly collecting résumés is an advantage if handled right. (Wait, it's the Revs...)
     
  20. Len

    Len Member+

    Club: Dallas Tornado
    Jan 18, 1999
    Everywhere and Nowhere.....I'm the wind, baby.
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  21. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Least Olsen has a comparable PPG since the start of 2015 with the coaches that have been fired. Curtin has 0.12 PPG less than the worst fired coach's PPG and we know he isn't going anywhere. Hell our TD keeps saying how he is doing a great job and that fans should come see practices so we can know he is doing a good job. :rolleyes:

    Here is a list of PPG since 2015 for fired coaches this year and some other coaches as well:
    • Vanney - 1.69
    • Marsch - 1.66
    • Vermes - 1.48
    • Robinson - 1.43
    • Berhalter - 1.36
    • Heaps - 1.31
    • Mastroeni - 1.30
    • Olsen - 1.29
    • Kinnear - 1.27
    • Curtin - 1.15
     
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  22. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You realize where he coaches now right?
     
  23. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your list is missing 2017 firings Cassar (1.24) and Onalfo (1.10). Onalfo bumps Curtin out of last place, but he had only 60% of one season before being pulled, not over three.
     
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  24. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    I realized after I did it that I should have specified mid to late 2017 firings. Onalfo wouldn't have been used anyway because his stint was way too short to be meaningful for this comparison. Yeah, he may have been terrible for years to come but he wasn't given that opportunity. Everyone on that list had 90+ games except for Kinnear with 85. That is enough to give a good long term picture. You can have one bad year (Berhalter) and not look too terrible and you can have one good year (Pablo) and not look great. Curtin has been consistently bad for 3 years now in picking up points. So bad in fact that he would need Philly to have a better than TFC year next season to even come close over 4 years to what Heaps has done over the last 4 years PPG wise.
     
  25. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    q
    Not unique to the US. Take a look at the guys who get recycled in most of the EPL.

    Back on topic: Does Kraft have a younger generation that is more passionate about soccer? Is there a chance for someone to emerge who is going to start driving MLS 3.0 decisions, starting with the next hire?
     

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