The Lockout Thread (R)

Discussion in 'Ice Hockey' started by DoyleG, Sep 15, 2004.

  1. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just get it sorted by the end of the NFL season or I'll be ticked. I can't get up for Flyer games too early anyway but once the superbowl is finished, I need the NHL.
     
  2. DoyleG

    DoyleG Moderator
    Staff Member

    FC Edmonton
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    Victoria, BC
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The 1/4 of the NHLPA that earns more than the league average will keep the rest in line. Old fashion union politics.
     
  3. Birdkamp

    Birdkamp New Member

    Sep 11, 2004
    Calgary
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Its only 30 people that make over 6 million, there the ones pushing for this thing to continue. The 600+ players at 1.8 or below, including the massive majority below the 1.8 average, will put heat on these guys. Cracks are showing.

    Look at Commodore, Ference, Daigenais, and Ray's comments. These are people who have yet to retract. A whole list of others who also spoke out before Goodenow slapped them on the wrist.

    I wish they would have an union vote, on whether playing in a cap is ok, I bet it would overwhelmingly pass in favor of playing in a cap versus not playing at all. Mr. G won't let that happen though, too much of an ego.

    Heres hoping the cracks continue and the dam bursts on the NHLPA.
     
  4. DoyleG

    DoyleG Moderator
    Staff Member

    FC Edmonton
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    Victoria, BC
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The men who earn more than the league average control how things are run in the NHLPA. As we now see, it's a united front.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=103440

    Adios NHL
     
  5. Heyzeus Krist

    Heyzeus Krist New Member

    Nov 2, 2004
    Boths sides can rot in hell.
     
  6. otterulz

    otterulz Member

    Arsenal, Atleti
    South Korea
    Jun 20, 2002
    LIC, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, at least you can take advantage at your team's official online shop with great sales. I bought 2 t-shirts and a hat for $44 and change. Shipping is ridiculously expensive which is $10, but those 3 things only came out to $34. Lot of clearance items, at least in the Rangers shop.
     
  7. DoyleG

    DoyleG Moderator
    Staff Member

    FC Edmonton
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    Victoria, BC
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Molson has come out with a rather pathetic TV ad dealing with hockey.
     
  8. spencer_carlos

    spencer_carlos New Member

    Aug 27, 2004
    Melbourne, Australia
    NHL lockout: A gift for soccer in the United States.
     
  9. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
    Purged by RvN
    You would have thought they would agree on something for the good of the game. This is beyond a joke now. FFS. This would never be allowed to happen in another sport. They are all a bunch of greedy bastards. Apologies for my rant, but I can't take much more of this. At least you lot have a decent amateur league. :mad:
     
  10. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Actually, it's happened in America's other three sports. They've all survived, but then we can be some dumb consumers. Baseball, football and basketball all are stable leagues. This'll kill off hockey as we know it. Not that I'll shed a tear.
     
  11. DoyleG

    DoyleG Moderator
    Staff Member

    FC Edmonton
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    Victoria, BC
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  12. patrickm

    patrickm New Member

    May 3, 2003
    usa

    you mean to say that the people of maryland-dc-virginia can actually survive a season without washington capitals hockey? no way, dude!
     
  13. petersoccer

    petersoccer Red Card

    Dec 2, 2004
    Mississauga,Ontario
    Typical of the stupidity of the NHLPA. The day after ray says he would play as a scab, the union sends him a letter that says he wont get lockout money due. He meets all criteria to ge the money.

    Dont you think the union has more important stuff at hand that to play petty politics.

    Sad situation.
     
  14. petersoccer

    petersoccer Red Card

    Dec 2, 2004
    Mississauga,Ontario
    Goodenow has "grown" the NHLPA's office into a professional organization. When he took office, there were 2.5 employees -- Eagleson was the part-timer on the payroll. Today there are about 50.

    He has an empire to protect. Sad
     
  15. patrickm

    patrickm New Member

    May 3, 2003
    usa
    hockey players are all great guys. they are very polite to the press, they are not the type of as-sholes you see in other sports.however, i am with the league on this one. the league is right, a salary cap is in the best interests of the sport. bob goodenow wants to be marvin miller or don fehr, who ruined baseball.
     
  16. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Binghamton, NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait, the same River Rats that the B-Sens SPANKED last week. 8-2 on wednesday and 6-2 on Sunday.
     
  17. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well the NHL (No Hockey League) looks like it will make another attempt at saving the league.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/hockey/nhl/01/17/bc.hkn.nhllockout.ap/index.html

    I don't know, if this doesn't work and they lose the season I think it may kill or put the league on life support. Besides I am having fun watching the AHL. The Chicago Wolves are actually a winning Chicago team. Been a long time since the Blackhawks were any good.
     
  18. Pauncho

    Pauncho Member+

    Mar 2, 1999
    Bexley, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The NFL Conference Championship games are this weekend, so the end of football season is at hand. Just like basketball did last time, that heralds the time when both sides come to the bargaining table and end the lockout by papering over their differences rather than resolving them.

    It's what the fans want, and gets the money coming back in.
     
  19. atlheel

    atlheel New Member

    Nov 19, 2004
    Atlanta/Chapel Hill
  20. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York
    They moved negotiations to Toronto. Good sign.


    BTW,


    Atlanta and Vancouver are getting their ice surfaces redone, and their logos painted on. Take that for what you will.


    I've got a good feeling about this. Talk about a fantastic weekend. US Soccer ends its lockout and the NHL is making major strides towards play.


    Buffalo Sabres- 2005 Abreviated Season Stanley Cup Champions! :D
     
  21. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where did you see this? I certainly hope that they get something done, the players are making money overseas, so it would seem the owners need the season more so. I see Forsberg is hurt, suregery on his wrist.
     
  22. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York


    Sportscenter
     
  23. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York

    You wanna hear something sad?


    The owners are making out better financially with a dark arena then they would with a 40 odd game NHL season.
     

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