The Liberal Emigration Thread

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That depends. If they're skilled, send em to Canada where NAFTA will at least make it easier for American companies to purchase the ones they work for. Then we still get the benefit of their skills and get to create more management positions here.

And then they get to deal with separatists.

If not...does it really matter?
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Here's a handy emigration guide to Canada

 

I just started a thread over there that is sure to get me lots of negative rep and/or binned.

you want to know what else is great? Daschle is done too. Now this would be the greatest election ever if all those people really DO move.

I feel better today than when Reagan won in '88 7000 to 1.

And the reality is, if you put someone in the basement in 2000 and took them out in 2004 and asked them to walk around for a couple of days and guess who was President: Al Gore or GW Bush - they wouldn't be able to tell. Yet they act like the Country is on fire, everyone is homeless, guns are being traded by children on the black market and that world war 3 has broken out.

So let them move. It's comical to me.

 

Damn Ted, looks like I just got moved to Canana. Then again, so did you.

 

I don't want people who are that fed up to move there.

I want them to become Canadian citizens and renounce their citizenship.

If you believe in the process, you take your lumps when you get them and get back up and work harder in support of your beliefs. You don't cry and run away.

I took my lumps from 1/1993 to 1/2000. I'm still here. Somehow defense spending did not get cut and my family still had jobs which allowed me to attend college in a much more comfortable fashion than if they didn't. I didn't leave when I figured they'd be out of a job in 12 months.

 

Yes, there WILL be a draft. Probably tomorrow, in fact. Better get out NOW. Today.

I hear GWB woke up this moring, rang up Rummy and the neocons down at the Pentagon and said "Alright, now that we've conned these idiots into re-electing me, let's start drafting their asses into the army. These kids wanna "Rock the Vote" do they? Let's see them "Rock the Sadr Militia" by the end of the year. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

It's true. Better get out before it's too late. It's Nazi Germany all over again. Best hit the road before they close the borders and open up the camps.

 

The thing that really pisses me off about the draft thing is that Kerry had been pushing for “national volunteer service†or something like that.

 

Foos must really be losing it then. I've always known him to be sensible about things.

Then again, I think a lot of sensible people are losing it. But hey...I wouldn't move to Ottawa anyway. I'd move to Kitchner/Waterloo area, that's the technology hub, and he's a computer geek. I hear RIM's hiring up there (I have a Canadian trainer this week from that area)

 

Not going to Canada. We'll probably start with Ireland, then eventually make our way to the continent. Italy, Germany, maybe France.

It would be nice to drive to WC '06 games instead of having to fly over there.

But hey, thanks for caring, guys.

 

did you see that Topper and I are starting a relocation service? As a pro at reocating disempowered liberals I must say that Ireland is not the answer for you. In fact Bush had more support in Ireland than he did in the rest of the UK combined and many people there are still opposed to abortion.

Italy has a right wing government now and thier president owns the team AC Milan. Jaques Chirac is also a right wing kind of guy so I am not sure those are viable options for you either.

However we do have some nice specials on Lebanon, Qatar and the UAE. PM me if interested.


edit: instead of saying the rest of the UK, I should have said the UK. sorry.

 

Actually, I missed the relocation service. Do you also help with job placement?

As for Ireland, I don't really care if most people are opposed to it there. We're not planning to have one if we move there. It also used to be illegal to get a divorce in Ireland, but it's legal now, now that we care because that's something else we won't need.

Saying Italy has a right wing government is assuming that the direction of their government follows Berlusconi the same way the American government follows the president. It's not like that there. The Italian Parliament runs things a lot more than the prime minister does.

We have no interest in places like the UAE, Qatar or Lebanon. We want to go somewhere in the EU.

 

mike

Italy is pretty conservative on many issues, many there are hard core catholics. I can get you there but If I am going to convince the Romans thee to accept you I will need a few extra euro's and a small knife. We never had this discussion by the way.

 

I know Italy is Catholic, but it's not exactly hard core. A lot of Italians don't go to church except for Christmas and Easter, and most Italian families don't have more than one kid. They're obviously using birth control, which isn't exactly somethign the Pope approves of.

I'm pretty sure I can figure out how to get to Rome on my own though, but this small knife thing sounds intriguing.

 

Look, Mike, you aren't going anywhere. You know it, I know it, everu=yone knows it.

This sour grapes "boo hoo, my candidate lost so I'm gonna pick up my ball and go home" crap is childish and embarassing.

What abunch of whining and self pity. Unbelieveable. Is this what you think elections are like? Eisenhower beats Stevenson so the left moves to Botswana? Johnson beats Goldwater so the right stomps off to Thailand?

What utter nonsense. Why don't you try to come up with a non-absurd political program that appeals to someone with a functional brain? Wouldn't that make more sense?

But in the meantime, your emigration threats are just embarasssing. Are you also going to hold your breath until you turn blue?

 

Mike,

I am in France until Sunday and will be leaving Geneva on Monday. So if you need a ride from the airport, let me know.

 

Bill,

We are certainly going to get our Irish passports - my wife is already an Irish citizen, and I can attain dual citizenship within about six months due to the simple fact that we've been married more than five years.

This isn't just a matter of holding our breath until our faces turn blue. I really do think that the US Consitution is being shredded by the Bush administration, and that the Republican power base wants to roll back the clock on many issues that we personally don't agree with.

We go to Europe almost every year on vacation, and we've discussed how we could live there and work there legally on many occassions. We didn't actually find out until Wednesday that we already did have a right to work in the EU, so we're going to take advantage of that. As far as I'm concerned, we'd be nuts not too.

And if the worst-case scenario does happen we have a perfectly legal way to get the hell out of Dodge. I'll fight the power as much as I can, but I'm not going to fight it when I see that it's a lost cause.

YMMV.

 

That's too soon. We don't have our Irish passports yet.

 

Mike, might I suggest looking into Italian passports. I looked into one several years ago when I applied for a job in Zurich to ease the work permit process.

As for the Constitution, the Patriot Act for all the complaints merely closes some loopholes in the Clinton Era “effective Death Penalty Actmâ€. When Michael Moore is working in a Haliburton petroleum mine, then we will talk.

Anthony

PS-look into Chamoniux in France (where I am right now). It is very beautiful. Allez le W!

 

When I lived in Germany, I went to Chamonix with some Air Force buddies once to do some skiing over Christmas. Incredibly beautiful.

I'd like to try for Italian passports, but it might be tougher since it was my great-grandparents who were born there. If it was my grandparents, I think it would be easier.