The Last Statesman, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, is dead.

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Mel Brennan, Mar 26, 2003.

  1. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

    Apr 8, 2002
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Most politicans run for office.

    A few statesmen stand for it.

    Senator, you will be missed.
     
  2. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    I loved Moynihan. That's really upsetting.

    The NYT has yet to put a story up, just a "news alert" at the top of the page.
     
  3. TheWakeUpBomb

    TheWakeUpBomb Member

    Mar 2, 2000
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    My favorite Moynihan quote

    I've quoted this here before:

    "Am I embarrassed to speak for a less-than-perfect democracy?" asked former Sen. Daniel P. Moynihan. His answer: "Not one bit. Find me a better one. Do I suppose there are societies which are free of sin? No, I don't. Do I think ours is, on balance, incomparably the most hopeful set of human relations the world has? Yes, I do."
     
  4. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    RIP Senator. You will be missed.
     
  5. entropy

    entropy Member

    Aug 31, 2000
    People's Republic of Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Moynihan was class...one of the most well-informed Senators too.
     
  6. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    He was a nice man, no malice in him unlike most of the politicians in congress now.
     
  7. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    The world is worse off without him. :(
     
  8. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    A last of a dying breed. Moynihan was a principled man who put the good of the nation ahead of his own personal ambitions. As a conservative, I can say that there are few Democrats that I admire. However, sadly, two of those men, Moynihan and Wellstone, have died in recent months and our Republic is the worse off for it.
     
  9. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He will be missed.
     
  10. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many of you have met him face to face? He was a MASTER politician, but he could be a jackass to the "little people". I met him a number of times and he was either A). drunk of his ass or B). treating people like shit. I met him a total of 9 times and 8 out of the 9 he was an ass. The other time he was actually decent to people. Will I miss him, hell no. But I have to admit that he was good at what he did.

    He was one hell of a politician.
     
  11. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    You want to elaborate on that????
     
  12. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Elaborate how... you want details? like the time he called an anchorwoman at a local television station a bitch to her face because he didn't feel like doing a pre-arranged interview. How about the time he nearly fell flat on his face at a Democratic fundraiser for the Broome County Demcrats because he drank WAY to much. There are lots of stories about him.

    I'm not denying he wasn't a good politician, because like I said he was a master politician.
     
  13. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    Brilliant people often have a history of being an a$$ outside of their arena, e.g., Diego, Larry Byrd, Magic, et al...
     
  14. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also, I by no means mean to insinuate that he's the only politician like that. I worked in the Senate for a year and saw PLENTY of Senators who fit the bill.
     
  15. Levante

    Levante Member+

    Jul 28, 2001
    Let him rest in peace.

    From a secondhand source who met him in DC while interning for Richard Lugar.....

    "Moynihan, is revered by all, Conservatives, Liberals, Democrats, Republicans, as the the smartest man in D.C."

    Rest in Peace
     
  16. zverskiy yobar

    zverskiy yobar BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 10, 2002
    Politicians are greedy scum in life.But suddenly become saints in death.
     
  17. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Moynihan was as much a scholar as a politician.
     
  18. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    Same thing happens to businessmen, I've noticed.

    That said, our nation has lost one of the few voices of reason left today.
     
  19. -cman-

    -cman- New Member

    Apr 2, 2001
    Clinton, Iowa
    There are few true statesmen left in our society. One fewer today.

    And yes, "greatness" often goes hand-in-hand with hubris and ego. I expect great people to be great at what they do, not saintly. I too, have felt the sharp tounge of the high and mighty... some of them "higher" than others, if you catch my meaning.

    RIP Daniel.
     
  20. csc7

    csc7 New Member

    Jul 3, 2002
    DC
    DPM was my political idol. This is a very sad day.
     
  21. cosmosRIP

    cosmosRIP Member

    Jul 22, 2000
    Brooklyn NY
    "The Soviet Union is a seriously troubled, even sick society. The indices of economic stagnation and even decline are extraordinary. The indices of social disorder — social pathology is not too strong a term — are even more so.
    The defining event of the decade might well be the breakup of the Soviet empire."

    Daniel Patrick Moynihan to the US Senate, January 1980.
     
  22. needs

    needs Member

    Jan 16, 2003
    Brooklyn
    He's also responsible, indirectly, for a wave of scholarship in African American History after his 1965 report The Negro Family: the Case for National Action called black families "a tangle of pathology" because they were predominantly matriarchal. A good deal of African American History for the next decade constituted a direct attack on Moynihan's report.
     
  23. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Many people might disagree with Moynihan, but I don't think too many called him a scumbag.
     

Share This Page