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  1. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    not the future, after the crime he comitted today vs. Obrien of the dallas Burn


    2nd leg to his short resume!
     
  2. cafrine

    cafrine New Member

    Oct 13, 2002
    is GONE
    Bastard deserves a slow and painful death
     
  3. oman

    oman Member

    Jan 7, 2000
    South of Frisconsin
    But it is sad seeing the torch of scum of the league pass from Chicago to DC.

    "Fukkin' Reds".

    (actually, not a bad moniker. I'd run with that. Sounds pretty good in the post-peristroika world...)
     
  4. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Relax kids.

    It was tough tackle, but nothing more malicious than the other challenges out there tonight. I hope O'Brien makes a quick recovery, because I think he's a great player.
     
  5. Jambon

    Jambon Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    Austin, TX
    DC must be so proud to have a player like Kovalenko wearing their uniform.
     
  6. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    It was awful. Should've been sent off. There was also plenty of ugliness from Dallas that went unpunished as well.

    Hopefully we will never see the likes of Jesse Johnson again.
     
  7. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    NYC
    Say what you like, that was an absolutely horrible challenge. The other challenges might not have been pretty either, but Dema's was the only one that broke a leg and likely cost a player his season.

    He left his feet and everything. I don't think he intended to hurt him a la Hristo or Roy Keane, but it was a brutal attempt at the player with little regard for getting at the ball. I'll agree with you that the Burn fans need to stop wishing him death, but if it was Paul Broome breaking Eski's leg, would DC be polite in it's objections? Probably not. The foul deserved a red, that seemed pretty clear. It's too bad the ref didn't take control of the game earlier, but that's no excuse.
     
  8. DCU

    DCU Member+

    Feb 15, 1999
    Bay Area, CA
    What are you guys talking about? It was a freak injury. Dema did NOT take out O'Brien's planted leg. O'Brien swung his right leg into Dema as he crossed. For that to result in a break is dumbfounding, but crap happens.
     
  9. Cweedchop

    Cweedchop Member+

    Mar 6, 2000
    Ellicott City, Md
    I agree with this completely..

    I feel horrible for Ronnie but this was a freak accident.. The fact that Kovalenko is involved certainly doesn't help his reputation one bit.. Dema is a hard player (who necessarily doesn't need to play that way) who has commited some stupid fouls in his day and his reputation is well deserved..

    To be quite honest, after watching the replay of the tackle, I'd be shocked if the league took any action against him...
     
  10. greatscott

    greatscott Member+

    Dec 21, 2002
    Richmond
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    hear hear, sure it was unfortunate but dema's leg was out in front, O'Briens foot hit him, not the other way around. They were both in the heat of the game and playing hard, sh!t happens.
     
  11. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    At least he didn't push anyone down while they were trying to get up like Suarez.

    Sachin
     
  12. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake

    MLS should revise officiating of games

    they confuse phisycal play with thugness, and dirty shittty... they often let play continue to improve the FLOW of the 'game'... that by itself sends the wrong message to nasty players like the ukranian of yesterday.

    some already called for mexi/conmebol refs to help, put order on the house of pain!
     
  13. DeezNutzz

    DeezNutzz BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Apr 12, 2003
    Rockville
    I believe Mexican players are the dirtiest of players. Just look at their league. If we bring in Mexican referees it can either hurt us or help us. That depends on the quality of the referee. A typical Mexican referee has, most likely, seen it all. Their league is filled with nothing but dirty, cheap shot players. But if this Mex ref is of poor quality, then he/she is no better than the current monkeys we have now.
     
  14. joe guy

    joe guy New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    Portland, OR
    Kovalenko leaped with a two-footed studs up challenge. That's a red card in anyone's League and it is not the first time the thug has broken a player's leg (Brandon Pollard, who has not played professionally since). Knock off your particanship and face reality. Deva Kovalenko is a hack and should be tossed from the League.
     
  15. greatscott

    greatscott Member+

    Dec 21, 2002
    Richmond
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did you watch this match? that was in no way an illegal challenge and no ref would have even yellow's him for it. O'Brien f-ing kicked him.
     
  16. TexanSoccer06

    TexanSoccer06 New Member

    "No ref would have even yellow's him for it," is the exact reason no one gives much thought to your posts. Please try and post coherent thoughts.

    Leaving your feet in any league across the world (except MLS apparently) IS an illegal challenge, and a red card. It doesn't matter if its from the side or behind, or if the guy being tackled was kicking the ball. Dema's tackle was ten times worse than Joe-Max Moore's in the first match of the season, and Moore got a straight red.
     
  17. greatscott

    greatscott Member+

    Dec 21, 2002
    Richmond
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just because it IS doesnt mean they are gonna give em a card for it.
     
  18. TexanSoccer06

    TexanSoccer06 New Member

    Sorry but can you read? That type of challenge recieves a card every time. I'll say it again so you understand: that type of challenge receives a card every time. Go ask a competent official what he would've done. Its tough when reality rears its ugly head isn't it?
     
  19. JAnderson14

    JAnderson14 New Member

    Oct 5, 2000
    Crofton, MD
    I thought your posts were worth reading. Apparently not.

    I doubt there are many DC fans that want people's legs broken. I have yet to read a post saying "Good, I'm glad O'Brien was knocked out of the game, he's dangerous". Sympathy isn't going to be easy to get if you guys keep up the shrill bitching. It's terrible that O'Brien is injured, and regardless of intent or fault, it's alarming that these things keep involving Kovalenko. The lifetime ban/firing squad you guys want, though, is childish and ridiculous.
     
  20. Cweedchop

    Cweedchop Member+

    Mar 6, 2000
    Ellicott City, Md
    Using the JMM example is hardly improving your point.. That was an extreme example of a ref abusing his power.. That play hardly warrented a yellow much less a straight red..

    As for leaving your feet for a tackle, don't most sliding tackles involve leaving your feet to get the requisite balance to slide in whichever direction to make said tackle? Additionally, name one example of a player sticking out a leg to block a cross and his studs are not exposed? The only example I can think of is playing on the turf surfaces where stud shoes are normally not required if the weather is cooperating...



    I would wholeheartedly agree with your point had Kovalenko made direct contact going through O'Brien but watching the videotape closely (and the angle from the North endline is the best angle on that play) Kovelenko clearly is attempting to block the cross and in fact it's the impetus of O'Brien's follow through that impacts the bottom of Kovalenko's boot..

    I am in no way defending Kovalenko because I do believe that he is a dirty player.. There are too many incidents like this to suggest otherwise, plus he is too high strung to begin with..


    I feel terrible for O'Brien and Kovalenko will probably get a suspension on reputation alone, but had this been Olsen or Convey, I don't think the uproar would be quite as loud as it is...

    If the league takes the reputation out of the equation and goes on the tackle alone (which of course they won't do), then I honestly believe that Kovalenko will get away with minimal punishment if anything at all...
     
  21. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Kovalenko should've been sent off, without a doubt. I got some pictures to what I think led up to this. There's an argument when Suarez got his yellow in the 53rd minute, and you can see an argument brewing with Kovalenko and O'Brien then.

    Then again, the referee lost complete control of the match sometime around the 2nd minute of the match. He was terrible.
     
  22. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    ### MODERATOR'S NOTE ###

    What is this? The sixth flame I've deleted from these boards?

    C'mon folks. At least try to maintain a modicum of civility.
     
  23. geordienation

    geordienation Moderator

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Doesn't matter how many shots you got running up to the play, the tackle itself was not a card, Mike. O'Brien's leg struck Kovalenko's and broke.
     
  24. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    No kidding. La Norte started counting when Morrow or Suarez were taking the goal kicks. On one kick, we got up to 20 before the ref noticed what we were doing and started smiling.

    Of course, at no time did he pull out his yellow card on any Burn player.

    Sachin
     
  25. cafrine

    cafrine New Member

    Oct 13, 2002
    is GONE
    Or Kovalenko.
     

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