The Kirk murder

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by superdave, Sep 19, 2025.

  1. Sufjan Guzan

    Sufjan Guzan Member+

    Feb 13, 2016
    My brother threatened to stop talking politics with me if I called Kirk a racist one more time. He recently told me I should find God and read the Bible, so I asked him what his three favorite books in the Bible were and he responded with, "I've only read Revelations and it's the one that matters the most right now"
     
  2. Sufjan Guzan

    Sufjan Guzan Member+

    Feb 13, 2016
    I spent three months of my life in Berkeley. I don't know if I like California, but I love Berkeley.
     
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  3. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    Same.

    Nobody reads Rush Limbaugh, either. These guys peddle outrage; and outrage has a REAL short shelf life.
     
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  4. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    It’s not all that surprising when you consider those conversations were never about Kirk in the first place.
     
  5. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    I'm not sure if most of Rush's fans read anything.
     
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  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    -Hey bro, how’s it going?
    -Pretty good. How are the kids?
    -They’re fine. Claire made the school volleyball team! How is work?
    -Work is terrific. I’m really excited about the new project. Have you talked to Dad lately?
    -Not for at least a week. I should call him.
    -Now with that crap out of the way, let’s talk about Charlie Kirk.

    ….and scene
     
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  7. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Ireland
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    Seattle Sounders
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    France
    Apparently Kirk's killer wasn't quite a raging liberal radicalized in college. Even if he was recently "moving to the left", he was still making anti-gay and anti-liberal jokes as recently as last year.




     
  8. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Every time I read about conversations like this I am so glad to have grown up as an only child. I don't know what it's like to have an extended family member like that, let alone have to spend time in the presence of a sibling or parent with those views.

    I'd have called Kirk a racist again just to be done with that SOB. Brother or not, it's unhealthy to be around those people.
     
  9. Tribune

    Tribune Member+

    Jun 18, 2006
    Speculation about Robinson's political meanings are meaningless, because it is pretty clear he killed Kirk over some personal grievance, not in furtherance of a cause. If Robinson was actually a political killer or was genuinely associated with some leftist group, we would be hearing about it every day, both from the White House and Fox News.
     
  10. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    DC United
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    United States
    Charlie Kirk-Bob Ross mashup

     
  12. Sufjan Guzan

    Sufjan Guzan Member+

    Feb 13, 2016
    This kind of reminds me of how sometimes at raves they will have artists painting alongside the music.
     
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  13. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Club: San Diego FC
    Jul 2, 2003
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    I missed the Bob Ross part apparently.
     
  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    At the least they need to open up an investigation

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  15. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    DC United
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    United States
    A professor at Austin Peay was fired for a tweet in which he cited Kirk’s own statement about the price we pay for the 2nd Amendment. Tennessee scumbag shitbird Senator Blackburn amplified his tweet, and APSU fired him.

    Well, now he’s been reinstated, and he got $500K to boot. They also are reimbursing him for therapeutic counseling. (How is that different from plain ol’ counseling? I don’t know.) Winning!

    https://clarksvillenow.com/local/ap...fired-then-reinstated-over-charlie-kirk-post/
     
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  16. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Club: San Diego FC
    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
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    I was watching some reporting from Minneapolis that described the murder victim and how she was a Christian, had done missionary work overseas, etc.

    Thinking about how MAGA does cheetah flips describing Kirk as a Christian, it occurred to me that whether you’re a real or contrived Christian, the bullets kill you just as dead.
     
  17. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I had to delete a few uninvited posts from a social media thread where someone I know wanted to butt in and talk about Kirks murder being the same thing.

    It's not the same thing.

    <Ali>Them Renees ain't told me they scurred to fly on my plane</Ali>, so I feel some sadness at her death. Charlie Kirk expressed apprehension about flying with Black pilots, so, duh, he had it coming.
     
  18. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    Atlanta
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    --other--
    Another thing that I can't stand is how people flock to speak of the dead as belonging to a faith. "S/He was a good Christian who just went wrong", or, in this case, "a good Christian"

    I don't know how many of you all belong to or know about other large Western-known religions, but I'm curious about whether this is a thing elsewhere. Do Muslims say this? Do Jews say it? Buddhists? Actually, I'm also curious about how prevalent it is here. I live in a region that has possibly the worst Christians in the world, and they seem to also be the world's most vocal. Do devout Christians across the board (I'm most interested in U-Presbyterian, because the behavior seems to be expressed more at the low end) broadcast their beliefs this loudly and frequently?
     
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  19. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Club: San Diego FC
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    I was not trying to imply they were the same. They definitely are not.

    I started the post with the intent of comparing how different they were as “Christians” — I’m just fvcking exhausted by all of this. She died because she was trying to live up to her Christian ideals. He wasn’t a Christian, I don’t care how much he went to church or how many times he professed Jesus H. Christ was his lord and savior.
     
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  20. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Also note that almost every mention of her death is accompanied by a statement about her not being among the protestors.

    A "She didn't deserve to die. She was just there"
    B "SHE didn't deserve to die. SHE was just there"
    C "She didn't deserve to DIE. She was just there"
    D "******** it, this is collateral damage/how do you know she wasn't a protestor?"

    I read A and heard A. Centrists and conservatives read A and heard B, on their best day. On their regular, C, their worst D.

    We have a culture that asks what the victim did wrong.
     
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  21. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    Atlanta
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    --other--
    I didn't mean to imply otherwise. I was adding an aside, really.

    I'm willing to let them have the name, based on all the "don't's" that were codified well before this shit happened. It no longer matters what the faith actually is to anyone personally, the various prohibitions have soiled the whole thing. It never had a chance among people who want to live and drink and toke and fornicate before marriage and listen to jazz and participate in activities like Halloween and Easter without guilt or ANY rebuking.

    If I have to pick and choose from God's rules to live happy, I better start asking the following

    a) Are these truly God's words, or just written by a hundred control freaks?
    b) What's in it for me that you can prove?
     
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  22. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Still waiting for people to get fired over their reprehensible responses to her, Renee’s, murder…
     
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  23. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Do you have food that won't spoil until spring?
     
  24. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I can go grab a head of iceberg lettuce…
     
  25. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I suggest you keep your local food delivery number handy
     

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