The Kid's alright - Getting the last L'OL: Tanner Tessmann at Olympic Lyonnaise

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  1. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    If I were advising Tessmann…I’d tell him to go hire an attorney. Not a sports agent…but an attorney that specializes in EU employment law.

    I cannot imagine representation agreements where the financial interests of the representative conflict with the interests of the representee to this degree are valid in either Italy or Europe. It doesn’t matter what the agreement states.
     
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  2. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

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  3. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

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    What a disaster lol

    So stupid
     
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  4. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

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    Torino swoops in now that it's a complete mess and asking price is likely a lot less?
     
  5. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    There was also a report in Italian yesterday that the door was open again for Inter, but that seemed more based on feelz than anything real.
     
  6. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

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    I really don't understand why Tessmann and his agent are playing hard ball w/ these clubs.?.? It still remains to be seen if it will work for Weston but at least he has 5+ years of experience making a difference in top 5 Europe (including CL ball). Tessmann has had one good year at CM in Serie B.
     
  7. Mt Stone@

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    Yeh... Weston is a World Cup vet, played and scored in Champions Leagues, was one of Juve's best midfielders last year on the 3rd best team in the league, so I get his playing hardball to a certain extent especially since he has a contract and has been through this rodeo before. But Tessmann lots of raw unproven talent and highest level being Serie B, like why you playing hardball with good clubs like Inter and Fiorentina with that weak ass cv.
     
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  8. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

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    I don’t think it’s Tessmann playing hardball. Hasn’t it been reported multiple times that he’s agreed to personal terms…and the only thing holding the moves back is “agent fees” or “commission”?
     
  9. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Plus mediocre Olympics.
     
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  10. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

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    Tessman thinks he's rodri. Too much fifa
     
  11. kruck

    kruck Member+

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    It's probably his representatives more then Tessmann.

    It's obviously a messy situation and one could easily say, "fire them" but there are contracts and legal considerations. We aren't privy to that information.
     
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  12. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

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    It doesn't seem like it's Tessmann playing hardball at all. It's his douche lagoon of an agent. I have no idea, however, how much Tessmann can pressure his agent to reduce his rate. But that agent is never going to represent anyone again (well, he probably will), because everyone has seen several good to very good moves lost because of that f*cker.
     
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  13. Excellency

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    Nov 4, 2011
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    I was wondering about that but I think football people look at Tessman in Olympics and who his partner was, then they look at Morris who was Tessman's prospective partner and sold to Boro just days before Olympics which foreclosed an Olympics call up and they give Tessman a pass.
    I believe Torino had to sell before they could buy? I read that somewhere and it's something that has been popping up a lot. FPP, Covid hit - there's less money to make deals at all clubs right now. It's just the way the market is. I was going to sell my place last autumn and found out that the market for my place was "frozen" due to interest rate rise. it's just the way markets work sometime. Let's get the Torino deal done, if poss.
     
  14. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

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    New Jersey
    Again…I am putting a weird amount of time and thought into this. If what’s being described regarding his agent is true…his representation agreement with his agent is not valid.

    https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/1e7b741fa0fae779/original/FIFA-Football-Agent-Regulations.pdf

    Edit: these regulations specifically govern international transfers. However…each federation was required to adopt similar regulations by September of last year…and those must include the requirements in articles 11-21….which clearly state that what Tessmann’s agent is doing violates these rules and his representation contract isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on.
     
  15. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

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    I believe the agents rules are being challenged and currently on hold.
     
  16. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

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    It’s hard to know what’s going on given we’ve only gotten reporting in Italian and not anything from our typical sources of US players.

    But typically it’s not much of an issue to fire your agent if you want to make a change. If that’s what the issue is.
     
  17. felloveranddidanadu

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  18. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Yes, that's true. From yesterday in Tutto Mercato Web:

    Before attempting to purchase a midfielder, however, [Torino chairman] Cairo's club must make some room in that department. The most mentioned name is that of Ivan Ilic, still part of the roster after coming very close to a transfer to Zenit Saint Petersburg, but his future with the Granata remains extrememly uncertain. The ex-Verona player has been receiving interest from the Premier League and, especially, Olympique Marseille. Has De Zerbi's side put €15M on the table? We're waiting for a response from Torino, especially seeing how they paid €1.5 more than that in January of 2023.

    https://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/ser...o-tornare-da-vanoli-marsiglia-su-ilic-2000220
     
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  19. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    #1444 The Irish Rover, Aug 15, 2024
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    True, but he could sign anyway and then say "sue me" to the agents while hiring one of the more Machiavelian agents going forward and a notoriously clever, cunning and devious lawyer who'll both promise each one of his current "representatives" that he'll testify against the other if it comes to court.

    They'll settle then and fairly quickly I'd imagine
     
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  20. The Irish Rover

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    #1445 The Irish Rover, Aug 15, 2024
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    Sometimes it takes the imminent prospect of winding up with much less or even nothing to break a deadlock so nothing will happen now until 2-3 days before the Italian window closes IMO. Then we'll see a mad scramble to close a deal - any deal - so that
    * Venezia avoid losing a transfer fee while paying a disgruntled player a salary
    * Tessmann avoids a drawn-out relegation slog and losing out on a mediocre Serie B salary
    * the agents get some money w/o loading major reputational damage on top of being canned
    . - which they know is going to happen anyway
    The parties also know that if their Mexican standoff kills a European transfer (the Top 5 all close at midnight Central European Time on August 30th), their only options will be Portugal, which closes on September 2nd and Turkey, which closes on the 15th.

    With every other option closed off and the clock ticking, the Portugese and the Turks are guaranteed to play hardball with everyone and there's no guarantee that Tanner will be as hot a property after 12 months there at those lower levels.
     
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  21. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
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    Oct 16, 2017
    I think the lazy narrative in the press is that Inter fell apart due to agents fees, but the more reliable reporters said that the bulk of the disagreement was over where TT would play this season and/or if Inter saw TT as a valuable player, or just a nice investment (aka, about to spend 3 years as part of a loan army before getting sold again).

    It's possible that the lack of clear options available to TT makes Inter more appealing.
     
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  22. uniteo

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    If you have to explain it, it's not a good joke
     
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  23. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

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    lets name names

    PROSPORT MANAGEMENT

    look at their track record with americans - its horrible
     
  24. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    If PROSPORT's model is "sign em' young in MLS/MX/USL, then get the big bucks in Europe", they're doing a great job of making every other player they have signed in the Americas question their working relationship. There's certainly a world where they ruin Wynder's career when Benfica are ready to sell him.
     
  25. Nastrabrahmus

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