The Kid's alright - Getting the last L'OL: Tanner Tessmann at Olympic Lyonnaise

Tessman gonnna end up back with Venezia where he will be relegated

 

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TESSMANN, Ancora in stand-by. La Fiorentina attende https://t.co/qD2TCIHZch

— Firenzeviola.it (@firenzeviola_it) August 7, 2024

The linked report alleges that Fiorentina entered the meeting expecting Tessmann's agents to say "okay" after the report that TT is begging them to let him go to Florence came out last night, but after today's meeting, no updates were given, so the outlet suspects the deal remains stalled over Agent's fees.

The only fans happy about this news on social media are Fenerbahçe fans, as this has reignited rumors of TT to Fener.

 

I'm now starting to getting a little bit dubious about the complete accuracy of the agent claim. It's always possible an agent is simply a short-sighted, pig-headed ding-dong. But if, as has been reported, they rep mostly North American based players, haven't done a lot of Euro deals, TT is coming out publicly and saying he wants to drop them/go to Florence, Florence is out in the press saying the agent fees are killing the deal... and the agents are unwilling to cut some sort of deal...

Maybe they are that dim, but I wonder if there is something else going on behind the scenes here. Or they know Tessmann is dropping them, TT signed a really bad agreement with them and they're just trying to get all the coin they can out of this deal... Be a drag if this BS really kills it. Wonder if Tessmann just signs anyway and tells the agents to go ahead and sue him. I would, if I really wanted to go and Florence lawyers were ok with it. Worst agents could do (in NA anyway) would be to sue for the difference between what they got and what they asked - and 95% of the time that will be negotiated out anyway.

I wonder if Tessmann or Florence is trying to stiff them completely

 

Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at. If ~10% is standard, how do his agents think it's remotely plausible to ask for 2 million on what's reportedly a 5-7 million transfer?

 

It's pretty interesting. The "Tessmann agent" story has a ton of posts in Italian, but almost 0 in English. There is a renewed "Celtic could swoop!" story that mentions it, but very few others. But on the Italian side someone(s) is pushing it out hard. Some of that is just "Serie A, duh" of course, but Tessmann, as a US Olympic player, would be expected to get more US based notice. No idea what it mean, if anything, but interesting (to me at least! lol)

 

perhaps you can inform me where to look for a states based press outfit who cares about agent fees for a fringe usmnt player, because I haven't seen it in my lifetime.

 

Hope springs eternal! - on the other hand, the potential Florence move was getting English-language notice, so that's what it's interesting to me that it going off the rails (potentially) has not. It's just kinda funny, cause there are literally 2 dozen + Italian based "stories" (yeah, most just rehashes, but still) and only a couple in English that mention it in passing.

 

bshredder to the rescue?

 

Whichever shitbag agent is holding this up is shooting himself in the foot with this.

 

Agents are sometimes paid by both parties - the player and the buying club. Sometimes the selling club too. That's particularly the case with the super-agents (Jorge Mendes, etc.) and the big clubs.

I know, I know, but this is football. "They do things differently there."

 

And it really was incumbent on Tessmann to have changed to a European agent or another American agency with extensive European presence or relationships.

His current agfncy got him to Europe, for which I suppose he should have been thankful, but he can only remain thankful if he's willing to remain a Venezia player indefinitely.

They had to be told before last December that a move to a UEFA ball side needs an agent with a different structure and or business model, and since they can't do that, he'smoving on

 

Venezia has assigned squad numbers for the 2024-25 season, and Tessmann has number 8:

https://www.trivenetogoal.it/2024/0...ni-l11-a-oristanio-il-20-a-pohjanpalo/215891/

I'm also reading there's a lot of frustration on Venezia's part as well with the deadlock regarding the Tessmann-Fiorentina transfer; Venezia would like to purchase his replacement, namely Juve's Nicolussi Caviglia, but it can't happen until Tessmann's sale to Fiorentina is finalized.

 

More of the same in the Italian press/posts:

Corriere dello Sport: “Tessmann argues with his agents, he only wants Fiorentina”
Tanner Tessmann only wants Fiorentina and he has made it clear, forcefully, even to his agents. The market soap opera continues.

Still very little in English language stuff.

 

If reports are accurate, that would be a tough case for the agents to win...unless their agreement explicitly states otherwise, in their capacity they have an assumed responsibility to look out for the interests of their client - if they endanger a deal by asking for fees far outside the norm and not budging on that point, I imagine they would have a really tough time collecting any kind of damages.

 

Fiorentina has yank fever! They've picked up Amir Richardson according to Fab:

🟣🇲🇦 Fiorentina agree deal with Reims to sign 2002 born midfielfer Amir Richardson.

Deal in place for fee in excess of €10m, as called by @CyrilOlives.

Final details to be sorted then he will be set for medical tests. pic.twitter.com/9WttgXoQD2

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) August 8, 2024

I don't think this puts Tessmann's move in any sort of danger, the Italian press has noted that Fiorentina needs 2-3 mids to fill out their roster. Still, the longer this nonsense drags on, the more likely that Fiorentina are gonna walk away.

 

Or even much in the way of fees. Agents of any kind are there to use their best judgement on the client's behalf. If the client disagrees with their chosen course of action, their options are 1) salute and execute or 2) resign.

If it comes to court, they'd better pray it doesn't come before a jury

 

Richardson similar to Tessman.
Fiorentina would certainly have the tallest midfield. Lol

 

This is oddddd

 

...i think they are dim.

Prosport management has kept all of their American players from flourishing in Europe, more likely

seems theyve kept every american in MLS, if possible....

the list: luciano acosta, dejuan jones, walker zimmerman, frankie amaya, eryk williamson, musovski

even guys like EPB (Man City? Troyes? Greece?) and Wynder (another american who will never play for benfica? really?) ....who have gone to europe have made some questionable moves

on one hand, its quite the arc that tanner is even in this position in the first place.....BUT the track record of his agents looks bereft of any successful american stories at this point. they seem like th types who just take whatever money they can get and dont know how to get the clients up the ladder. which sucks.

if these rumors are true, this agency would be smart to hook tanner up with the best possbile deal....and then use that to market to future clients...(but they have so many already they probably dont care)....though, based on their track record, im betting this doesnt end well for tanner, unfortuantely.

 

I’ve been putting some thought into this (too much…but this kind of stuff I find interesting) and the only plausible explanation I can come up with where tanners “agent” would have the power to kill a deal would be as follows:

Tanner signed an agreement with Venezia that he (or more correctly his representative…but that’s really between tanner and his agent) are due a portion of any transfer fee received by Venezia in the sale of his contract. That is the only way I can see this hang up not being a violation of the 3rd party ownership agreements that have been banned for the better part of a decade. If that’s the case…then this whole thing is on Venezia. When you agree to sell on clauses…you agree that you’re giving up a portion of the proceeds…so if you want $10 million for a player in order to buy replacements… and you’re giving $2 million in sell on…you have to find a buyer willing to pay you $12 or that $10 million is really $8.

We’d arrive at the situation where this is allegedly about agents fees as follows: Venezia tells Fiortina that he’s our player unless we net $10 million. If you want him…you’re paying his agent the $2 million “sell on fee”. And they’re trying to negotiate that down. The reality in this situation is Venezia is trying to separate the payments when in reality…when you agree to sell on clauses you’re agreeing to sell your player at a discount to what the market is willing to pay.


Absent a clause like that being in Tessmann’s agreement with Venezia I see no way for a dispute around agent fees could kill a this move. And Venezia should sue the ******** out of Tessmann’s agent for blocking the deal.

The sale agreement is between the two clubs. I just can’t see how a 3rd party (agent) can have a rights in that agreement based on their contract (representation) with a 4th party (Tessmann)

Long story short….i think most of these stories are written by clickbait journalists that haven’t the first clue how contracts and agreements between clubs and players are actually structured….or how contracts work in general.

 

^^^ yeah, it was starting to sound a little... "more nuanced" to me. It's also possible that Tessmann just had enough of his agents and is trying to "fire" them - and cut them out of fees. No idea really, but if TT really wants the deal to go through and Venice and Florence have agreed, as reported, and Tessmann and Florence have agreed - also as reported - I don't see how agent fees block it unless there's some other contractual/legal thing happening.

 

Mediacom is doing very well, so Commisso has the cash to spare to get all the YAs in Europe in Fiorentina if he wants.

 

One more thing…if tanner really did sign an agreement that allows his representatives to do this (by language not law)…he needs to hire himself an attorney (perhaps he’s doing it).

Not an attorney…But if I were representing him…I would tell his representatives this: your agreement with my client is null and void. We can either mutually agree to part ways…or you can take us to court. But if you take us to court…mark my words…not only will we win…but I’m going to represent every client you have in those proceedings and you’re going to lose them all.