The Kid's alright - Getting the last L'OL: Tanner Tessmann at Olympic Lyonnaise

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  1. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Tanner needs to fire his agent. Inter and now fiorentina backing off.
    An agent fee for tessman???
     
  2. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Sounds a lot like the main agent and the intermediary are arguing among themselves, which used to be a common occurrence.

    It's too late to get a new agent for this window, but when it finally closes it's time to move on someone who can do the damned deals on their own or has strong ties established with a European agency.

    In the meantime, it's time for Tessmann to bring the hammer down and say "I want deal X to go through. I'm signing. Sort it out between yourselves."
     
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  3. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Nicolo Schira is reporting that the total agent's fees that Tanner's camp are requesting comes to €2m.

    That's like ~30%-35% of the total transfer fee... my understanding is that a normal commission is between 6% and 10% unless it's a massive blockbuster transfer involving a huge star. Absurd ask.
     
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  4. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    I don't really pay too much attention to the nitty gritty of the transfer business but I have seen things about commissions/agents/sale %s being grumbled about for a while now.

    Looks like Tessmann is getting the real deal suspect transfer business situation experience.
     
  5. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    He's also burned his bridges at Venezia and the new Serie A season begins in less than two weeks. Not the greatest position to be in.
     
  6. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    And like other silly season stories, something like this only gets in the press when someone with a press agent or good contacts wants it to. I’d guess it is a message to Tessmann from one of the clubs.
     
  7. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember there was a big controversy over whether "Kon Schramm" or "Ron Waxman" (both sound like 100% made-up names but are real people) were Michael Bradley's agent. I think it turned out that Bradley's US agency hired Schramm to look at opportunities on Germany for him. Anyway, having 2 agents is confusing. I think Bradley switched to a European agency soon after.

    Starts here https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/michael-bradley-transfer-news-thread-phase-iii.705904/page-2, then devolves into discussions of Bob Bradley's tactics and name-calling, then gets kind of resolved here https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/michael-bradley-transfer-news-thread-phase-iii.705904/page-5.
     
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  8. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
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  9. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Fiorentina would be a great landing spot.
     
  10. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    uhhh... Tessmann is apparently trying to fire some of his agents in order to secure the move to Fiorentina:

     
  11. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
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    Atlanta
    Something about too many cooks.
     
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  12. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Too many Crooks.

    This smells a lot like Florence going to the press to let Tanner know his ding-dong agents were screwing him. Smart move if true. Kid shouldn't get screwed because his agents are looking out for themselves first.
     
  13. DCU1984

    DCU1984 Member+

    Jan 15, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ugh this sucks. Hope he has some good independent lawyers now.

    The type of "agent" who tries to skim himself a couple of million dollars is definitely going to sue for breach of contract. What a mess.
     
  14. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Other YAs repped by PROSPORT: Joshua Wynder, Sam Rodgers, Erik Palmer-Brown.

    Hope they're taking notes. Seems to be a serviceable agency for domestic players (Mexicans and Canadians included), but they seem to be out of their depth in Europe.
     
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  15. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Will be interesting to see. The fact that they don't seem to be well-traveled in Euro leagues (according to some posts above) suggests they might also not want to get known for blowing deals in the big 5 leagues due to greed either. There's a couple of articles/posts now in Italian saying Tessmann is going to get the deal done without/around the reps/agents. I imagine they are all sourced from the same place, but often in this kind of public situation an intermediary would rather compromise on the fees than get dropped and dragged, esp if they aren't a well-known top rep.
     
  16. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Bummer. Hopefully it can get resolved without a nasty lawsuit.
     
  17. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Tessman agents costing him great opportunities
     
  18. AngelaMerkin

    AngelaMerkin Member+

    Dec 2, 2005
    Seems like Tessman has a Confederacy of Dunces at his disposal. I know Italian clubs like to negotiate in the press a bit, but it truly is sounding like his team are trying to look out for themselves instead of their client
     
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  19. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
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    Most of the reporting on-line is that it's going to happen, but I have no idea if any of those sites know anything. They seem to be referencing the Pedulla tweet a lot.

    If, as reported, Venice and Florence have agreed to terms and Tessmann and Florence have agreed, it's pretty dangerous for an agent to kill it over anything beyond customary fees. Opens them to a pretty expensive lawsuit as well. I got no idea what Italian laws are like, or even where/how this kind of dipsute would be heard, but in North America, Tessmann's damage claims, if the deal were to fall through, would be way higher than the agents would be if TT just signs on his own. I can't imagine they don't work it out.
     
  20. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    I'm seeing a lot of reporting lately originate with La Nazione, which is a Florence-based newspaper. They follow Fiorentina closely and have their own journalists & sources.

    With the Serie A beginning in a week and a half it looks very likely to screw the start to his season though.
     
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  21. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Yeah, not great that it's tied up this long, that's for sure. The reporting that he's trying to firing them could also complicate things if Florence doesn't want to get caught up in "domestic" battles but it still seems unlikely the reps won't agree to some 100's of thousands rather than blow the whole thing up, unless TT is so pissed he's really trying to cut the out completely now, which could also complicate things.

    There's also reporting that the Caviglia transfer is on hold till TT is sorted out, which makes sense.
     
  22. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    According to TuttoMercato, there is a "decisive" meeting set for this afternoon. Fiorentina are still making TT one of their priorities, but they are not budging on the requested €2m in agent's fees. If an agreement can't be reached, they will start pursuing backups, as they still need to sign two additional midfielders.
     
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  23. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Miserable mercato for 'muricans in Italy this year...
     
  24. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    I don't know where I got this number from originally, but I had always thought it was standard for agents to get ~10% of the transfer fee as a commission. Is that not right?
     
  25. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    I've seen figures that suggest between 6% and 10% is standard, but 10% of this transfer would be roughly €500k - €600k, not €2m.
     
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