The Joe Biden Presidency II : He's too old...or something like that!

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  1. yossarian

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    I've read them multiple times (The Silmarillion as well) starting when I was in fifth grade, but they're the only fantasy/sci-fi I've ever read. And I hardly every read any fiction, almost exclusively history.
     
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  2. bigredfutbol

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    I can respect the commitment to world-building.

    After I finished LOTR and was healthy, I tackled The Silmarillion but I don't believe I ever finished it.
     
  3. bigredfutbol

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    This is where I'm at. He's not the young, dynamic leader I wish we had. But I think he and his team can get us through the next four years and leave a somewhat functional republic still standing when he's done.
     
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  4. Kazuma

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    I get it but people act like he's worst case scenario, when as I alluded to, it's obvious people never spent time in a nursing home. I mention my great-grandmother, she talked slow but as I said, sharp. She was still giving me advice until her fall. Same with my great-aunts.

    That said, all of the age concerns should be going to Trump. Last night for him was... not great. Oh, and he isn't aware of his oldest son's marital status. And thought Hannibal Lecter was a real person. He also froze for 10 seconds. Biden did that, there'd be a meltdown. Trump? Crickets.
     
  5. bigredfutbol

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    When I saw that I first assumed it was a re-posting because...this isn't the first time he's talked about Hannibal Lector being a real person.

    But hey--he was a REAL forceful liar at the debate!
     
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  6. Auriaprottu

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    Haven't read it. Do not know how to play D&D. Don't mind not knowing stuff only geeks know.
     
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  7. bigredfutbol

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    Both of those things are pretty popular (I have played D&D in my adolescence, although me and my friends never took it to the next level).

    Why "geeks"? That seems harshly judgmental of people who are guilty of enjoying things you don't enjoy.
     
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  8. Auriaprottu

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    I apologize. A lot ofbthe HSers I went to school with were already convinced of their superior brains. They all lost their silly math team's chess tournament.

    Humorously, none of them are doing anything of value- they're all engineers.
     
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  9. BocaFan

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    Yeah, Biden can't go off the teleprompter anymore.
    People will likely forget all about the last debate by November, but the next one could be a problem.
     
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  10. bigredfutbol

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    No apologies necessary--I've always been a dork, and at any rate my time playing D&D was brief and I never really mastered the whole thing--I might have been the worst Dungeon Master in history. So I didn't take your comment personally at all, I just don't understand that POV.

    Well played.
     
  11. MattR

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    I don't know where to put this, but the democrats just need in and align.

    Next debate: Joe says "yes, I am experienced in politics, and will use my age and knowledge to make good decisions with my staff of advisors and experts."

    "Let's talk about your decisions, both privately and as a president."

    Cheating on your first wife with your second. Good decision?
    Buying and investing in a Casino in Atlantic City and going Bankrupt. Good decision?
    Having sex with, and then paying off, a porn star. Good decision?
    Starting an unaccredited business "university" that also went bankrupt and lost millions? Good decision?
    Lying about the value of properties to both investors and the government? Good decision?
    Buying high end real estate and selling, repeatedly, at a loss. Good decisions?

    I could go on, but let's talk about your decisions as a president.

    Using your office to require security and staff to pay to stay at properties owned by you to enrich yourself. Good decision?
    Hiring your business associates (Michael Cohen, Miachel Flynn, Steve Bannon, Zinke, etc), only to turn on them when they point out your cheating and stealing. Good decisions?
    Pretending that Covid would go away on it's on, and then a hoax? Good decision?
    Trying to use your office to "dig up" dirt on your potential political rival (or his family) and getting impeached for it? Good decision?
    Trying to use your office to "find" just enough ballots to win certain states, and then trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power and getting impeached for it. Good decision?

    "The primary purpose of a president is to make the correct, well-measured decisions to ensure the prosperity and security of America. I am that person, despite being a little slower and more measured than some would like. You, Mr. Trump - are NOT that person."

    Mike drop.

    Someone should put me in charge.
     
  12. Q*bert Jones III

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    Yes, literally any candidate should be able to say that. Even you! The problem is that the guy who IS the candidate is not capable of saying that.
     
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  13. MattR

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    Maybe. I think he could. I think it's the advisors that don't want him to "be mean" or some other crap.
     
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  14. rslfanboy

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    When he was mean and defiant during the debate as they discussed the VA and supporting veterans was about the only time I got excited for Biden's performance. It was the only good part.
     
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  15. song219

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    So what do you think of people who read and re-read Asimov sci-fi?
    Asking for a friend.
     
  16. rslfanboy

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    I find it interesting to reread things after at least a few years, even decades. What struck me back then is now old hat and boring, and what was boring or confusing is now incredibly relevant and insightful. Especially relationships. Having now been in a relationship for over 20years and having kids, almost everything I have read has become new again.
     
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  17. taosjohn

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    It is fantasy, but it isn't just for geeks. The franchise includes two of the most important lines in literature IMO:
    Is it Bilbo who asks plaintively "Don't adventures ever have an end?"

    And the exchange about "There is no longer any hope." "Then we must do without hope."

    "War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer who would devour all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend." (Tolkien)
     
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  18. rslfanboy

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    When they are in the mines of Moria:

    “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
    "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
     
  19. Raumdeuter

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    I don't think all the interviews are helping at all. Or tell me how these helps in anyway?

    Looks like the interviewers are just to ridicule him and part of the problem

    Biden called into a radio station, then the reporter was fired for asking prepared questions from the WH

    George Stepanopolous had an interview with Biden recently and this was his summation

    George Stephanopoulos gets blunt after Biden interview: ‘I don’t think he can serve four more years’

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/10/media/george-stephanopoulos-biden-tmz-video/index.html

    How are these examples supposed to give confidence to the public. Looks like the DNC really wants to shame Biden into dropping out. If I didn't know better I'll think they all have bets on Trump winning or are financed by Trump
     
  20. Khan

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    Dems' will to lose is breathtaking.

    As is their want/desire to UNILATERALLY disarm, to their detriment.

    As is their want/need to place artificial importance onto things that simply do not matter.
     
  21. The Jitty Slitter

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    I am kind of mixed on Asimov - i read lots of him in the early 80s because he is what we had - but I don't find much of his stuff that great in the end.
     
  22. Raumdeuter

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    You can't just make this shit up.
    How do they intend to walk all the nonsense they are spitting in public against Biden back when it's September or October. They probably deserve to lose for all these unforced errors

    If this had been a Romney Bush or McCain, I would have been okay with the Dems losing. Or maybe they think the stench of Trump is enough to steer voters away even if the DNC does the most insane things
     
  23. rslfanboy

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    Jul 24, 2007
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    Ray Bradbury kinda holds up. At least some of it is still very good.
     
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  24. The Jitty Slitter

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    Oh yeah - i loved that stuff. Must re-read. I got very into Greg Bear recently.
     

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