The Joe Biden Presidency II : He's too old...or something like that!

1) cancer diagnosis isn’t easy and House was a tv show.
2). See #1.

 

Cancer sucks. I lost a parent to it who was much too young a few years ago. Wishing Biden the best.

 

Not sure if true, but they were saying on TV that PSA tests are not regularly checked beyond the age of 70. One might think that the oldest POTUS in history after Trump would get tested for pretty much everything under the sun, even stuff the "normal person" would not get tested on, but also makes sense that it would be easier to detect only once the cancer became aggressive.

 

The problem is that this much testing isn't actually good for you either, and you could be getting treated for conditions with care that has side effects that are worse than the condition.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/health/medical-screening-older-patients-partner/index.html

 

Yes and related, the typical progression of prostate cancer is such that if you get it late enough in life, you'll die with it rather than from it, so not worth treating. From an actuarial perspective.

 

Yes, exactly. There's no point in testing for something where you'll die before the symptoms are even noticeable.

I think I'm correct in saying that British men over 70 aren't commonly tested for prostate cancer if there are other comorbidities unless they ask for it.

 

The whole cancer thing can be tricky. I had symptoms that were ignored by my Drs for 6 yrs. In 2016 I finally, after a bit of prodding, was sent to a Urologist who performed a cystoscopy and he found and removed 5 spots. Every year since then I've had the procedure with no return.

 

Unfortunately, I now know more about prostate cancer than I ever wanted to know, by virtue of the fact that I was diagnosed with it late last year (Stage 1, Gleason 7 (4+3), grade group 3, negative PSMA/PET scan). This was found subsequent to a first elevated PSA test. I had no symptoms and the problematic tumor wasn't palpable with a rectal exam (also quite common, btw). I'm 69 with no comorbidities.

I can tell you from having sat on PC message boards for the last six months that it is alarmingly common for people to be diagnosed after the cancer has spread outside the prostate to bones or other organs. This is true both of "younger" people and older (post 70) people who haven't been having PSA tests and only go to a doctor once they have urinary symptoms.

As for myself, I went through an emotionally painful wtf? period wondering why I bothered getting tested given that I was going to lose my prostate anyway either through surgery or radiation. After way too many medical appointments I chose surgery and had my prostate removed last month. The post surgery pathology looks good: negative margins and no cancer in lymph nodes or seminal vesicles. I'm back hiking 5 or 6 miles a day and am planning my next high altitude trek. At this point I say I am "guardedly optimistic", well aware that it's now all about recurrence risk. I've learnt there are few absolutes as regards cancer.

 

Pretty much this.

 

Trump said they’re eating cats and dogs in Springfield. I know which of the two has more mental issues.

 

Yes, a difference of about 40 IQ points.

 

Which way?

 

I'm guessing people have seen the Ezra Klein/Jake Tapper interview...



I haven't watched the entire interview but it seems reasonable for Biden's state of mental health to be a discussion. Of course, it wouldn't normally be but this is Biden, not as a father or husband, but as potus.

 

Interesting this talk and thread about Biden when we have a crook, a felon, a lying SOB, a traitor to the constitution, a wannabe Hitler, a rapist, a 6 time bankrupt ‘businessman’ running/ruining the country.

Biden as a president is history and that history left a pretty decent mark.

What is history going to say about the Orange Shitstain?

Guess that will be left to whoever is left to write it.

 

Jake Tapper is a hack...This SOB has the gall to tell Nate Burleson at CBS yesterday that he has not seen any decline in the felon in chief. He is truly gross hawking his hit job of a book every day on CNN.

I will take Tom Friedmann words over Tapper's any day of the week.

President Biden called Thomas Friedman weeks before his cancer diagnosis not to talk about himself, but about saving NATO. “Joe Biden — even at his most inarticulate and even with his voice weakened by age — has more gut commitment to and understanding of what America at its best means to the world, and who our real friends are and must always be, than every member of the Trump administration combined…”. Thomas Friedman wrote today….

 

This is what infuriates me the most.....Biden is an easy target and it is pretty clear as well that Tapper, based on his own words, had a massive ax to grind against all of them.

 

I don’t know how historians will evaluate the fact that after Biden came Trump, I don’t know how culpable to hold Biden for that.

But outside of that, he’s arguably the greatest one term president we’ve ever had (if you don’t count Lincoln, who only served a few weeks of his second term; inauguration was much later in those days.). Polk was pretty consequential for a one termer, but from what I’ve seen historians judge the Mexican War as a negative, due to its role in the dissolution of the Union. (That is an historical interpretation that wasn’t out there 40 years ago.)

Bush’s handling of the end of the Cold War was pretty good, as well as his diplomatic efforts for the first Gulf War. If you’re neutral on policy, he was pretty good too.

 

Ah yes now complaining about Tapper, even though he and Alex Thompson use Biden’s own people’s quotes in the book, who were perfectly happy to dump on Biden themselves.

Jill talking to Joe like a kindergartner is hilarious.

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Bush 1 was a decent President, and generally a good man.

 

Some people are pushing the idea that Biden somehow knew about his cancer a few years ago, but kept it a secret. If that was the case, don't you think he would have announced 2 years into his term, that he wasn't running again and they'd open up the nomination in the usual way? This way, they would have had 2 years to campaign against Trump and a better chance at winning the election.

 

This is not saying all thatn much but Bush 41 was the best Republican president in my lifetime.

 

For everyone not born in the Eisenhower administration, it’s a ridiculously easy call.

Before Ike are Harding, Hoover and Coolidge, a trio of disasters.

It’s kind of funny…a list of the 10 worst presidents might arguably be Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, and every Republican in the last 102 years except Bush I and Ike. Ive never realized it before, but my gosh, I don’t see how you can avoid that conclusion.

I mean, my God, Harding Coolidge Hoover Nixon Reagan Bush II Trump is a veritable murderers row of awful.

 

Bush’s quick end to the Gulf war was good in some ways, didn’t get the troops bogged down with years of insurgency like his not so smart son acting under Cheney!
Hard to forgive and forget what he did to the Kurds tho after telling them to rise up.

 

Ford's pardon of Nixon puts him on this list. Otherwise he would avoid being there.