The Joe Biden Presidency II : He's too old...or something like that!

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  1. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Unfortunately some people are still under the impression that they'll be one of the 'good minorities' that people will want to keep.
     
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  2. The Jitty Slitter

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    In what way?

    Trump already announced he wants to put 10m people in deportation camps, and give law enforcement full immunity to implement it.

    Maybe it won't be you, but it will be other residents and citizens.
     
  3. The Jitty Slitter

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    Righties will never get past the idea that the left is the real threat.
     
  4. Moishe

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    For fear of sounding like a trump supporter, I’m pretty sure there is more to what he said. I don’t agree with that position at all and I also don’t see him or the republicans ever having that much control to put such a dubious plan into reality.
     
  5. Naughtius Maximus

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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/01/project-2025-key-proposals

    The problem is that something happening for 'the first time' doesn't it means it won't... it just means it will be the first time.

    DTH has distanced himself from it since it started getting bad press but his fingerprints are all over it. That's why he chose the guy that wrote the forward for the main author's book, as his VP pick.

    The idea it definitely won't happen is for the birds. If he wins this time I'd say a lot of it probably WILL happen and... just remind me how that sort of stuff works out for you guys again? If memory serves, not great!!!
     
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  6. Tribune

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    Trump does not actually understand how the government works and it would not be the first time a would-be authoritarian tried a boneheaded scheme.

    It does not have to. Simply making a serious attempt is bad enough and, when it blows in Trump's face, everyone will have to pick up the pieces.
     
  7. dapip

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    #3307 dapip, Aug 2, 2024
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    1. He already tried something similar during his previous term.
    2. His base would love for it to happen.
    3. The people ready to use his next term to implement such policies already have a plan to do it (project 2025).

    Granted, it won't be easy and it won't happen as smoothly as putting 10 million people in deportation camps within a month, but the mere threat of doing it will create disruption and cause pain and affect millions of lives. We cannot allow him to gain power or we will have to deal with the consequences, even if they're not as bad as they could have been.
     
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  8. Moishe

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    Been a long time chamigo! I actually agree with most of this. I don’t agree with the degree of some of the fatalistic takes but that’s just me.
     
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  9. Moishe

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    Agree to disagree
     
  10. taosjohn

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    Yes, people have not considered the implications of "an end to birthright citizenship."

    Most of us are birthright citizens; I am, even though my family tree in the US is about as firmly rooted as possible-- John and Priscilla Alden. Make it revokable and anyone can be deported...
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

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    As veterans of these absurd 'deportation' crack downs understand, deportation itself is hard, because the country you want to deport to has to agree. If it were not hard, then all the 'illegals' would all be rapidly deported

    What's really going to happen is mass internment.

    And as euros got a taste for with Brexit, it may not matter if you are legally in the country, in the face of a kafka style bureaucracy requiring 10,000 pages of documents that you won't be able to produce unless you have the financial means. The idea citizens won't be eventually targeted is naive IMO.

    And if you think I am exagerating, listen to Bill Kristol who has documented all of this in great detail, including the plain to give local cops complete immunity to round up anyone they like.
     
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  12. roby

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    A lot of cops will be rounding up a lot of other cops! :confused:
     
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  13. Deadtigers

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    I paid attention to the Britain one with with people who had been there since the wind strong migration being sent back because they couldn't find their initial immigration papers
     
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  14. dapip

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  15. rslfanboy

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    He also like to kiss Trump, and vis-versa!
     
  16. Dr. Wankler

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    Americans shoot each other all the time.
     
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  17. The Jitty Slitter

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    american normies have some kind of battered wife syndrome

    sure my husband is a fascist but he doesn’t really mean it!
     
  18. Potowmack

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    Yeah, but it's not really organized.

    There's people on this thread who seem to want to scrap the current Constitution and try for something completely new. I think they're naive if they think that will happen peacefully.
     
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  19. Yoshou

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    This is literally not something that can happen without a coup…
     
  20. The Jitty Slitter

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    the coup is already happening
     
  21. Yoshou

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    Not to the degree that would be necessary to implement a new constitution outside if the existing mechanism. Literally talking about a coup and a civil war.
     
  22. Tribune

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    #3322 Tribune, Aug 2, 2024
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    Man, I wrote an elaborate post specifically directed at you and addressing this exact issue.

    No, we are not naive to think that will happen peacefully (and I did give you some examples how it could happen...), but what exactly do you expect the non-MAGA people to do when Trump and his gang made it perfectly clear they are not going to go quietly when they lose elections? And the Supreme Court has decided that authoritarianism is the way to go and abets their efforts?
    Say "congratulations and have a successful tyranny"?
    The Founding Fathers themselves, which the Republicans claim to revere, acknowledged this exact possibility.

    The original American revolution started for less.
     
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  23. taosjohn

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    Yes-- or at least something equally disruptive. We might not have ever seen anything quite like whatever sparks it.
     
  24. Naughtius Maximus

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    TBH I hope you're right and if he gets in it's not too bad and he mainly concentrates on corruption and lining his own pocket. I'm just saying that's a HELL of a risk.
     
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  25. song219

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    He may just make the trains run on time.
     

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