The Joe Biden Presidency I :: Hallelujah!

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  1. rslfanboy

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    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Yeah! Because Trump took some ridiculously famous documents, like his correspondence with Rocketman. Obviously that was going to get noticed.
     
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  2. Auriaprottu

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    The greatest, let me tell you...
     
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  3. Pønch

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    Poor orange man, always the victim, so unfair!

    It's a good thing that he has his MAGA willful idiots to share the burden of the outrage.
     
  4. bigredfutbol

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    Fair enough.
     
  5. Auriaprottu

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    They'll even go to jail for him...
     
  6. rslfanboy

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    Section 26
    The ******** are you on about?

    The executive doesn’t make the laws, it enforces them.

    When, under the Biden administration, were the laws changed to make this a crime whereas it wasn’t before?
     
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  7. Sounders78

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    Exactly. No matter how many laws he breaks, he's always the victim.

    No matter how many crimes he knowingly commits, his followers defend him.
     
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  8. The Jitty Slitter

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    I mean these are people who eat horse deworming tablets because THE MAN
     
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  9. marek

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    I get it!

    you guys are just taking the piss!
    And I fell for it

    I guess I should have guessed, you all being so into it with the pee tape and all

    you all can’t be so outraged and knowledgeable when it comes to Republicans and so dim and gullible when talking about Democrats

    HA HA … you had me there for a moment
    good one
     
  10. Kazuma

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    Several years ago during a faculty strike, the student newspaper charged me with trying to find out how much the dean of our school (Who got a generous raise during the GFC no less) was making. The university library had these salary books to dig through. Out of curiosity, I looked up our faculty advisor and a few other department of journalism professors salaries. It was disheartening to say the least and slowly nudged me towards fields such as advertising and PR.

    On a related note, I tend to think those faculty strikes are why I'm incredibly left wing on the economic front. And why I tend to be skeptical of any C-suite executive, even if they are human.
     
  11. marek

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    how much do the Administrators of Woke make, pretty sure it’s more then the average Prof
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

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    You’ll all be surprised to know that right wing media has been pushing the Biden crime family tropes … see these nested tweets from Stefanik which include the silly 49k monthly rent stuff

    the problem is because most Americans don’t follow this nonsense they have no idea of the radicalisation that is going on

     
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  13. Yoshou

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    Again, the law requires that the person KNOWINGLY remove and retain the classified documents. Just possessing classified documents is not, in itself, a crime.

    https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/USCODE-2011-title18/USCODE-2011-title18-partI-chap93-sec1924

    Biden did not criminalize it. Congress passed a bill in 2012 that criminalized it and an update to that law was passed in 2018 that increased the punishment for violating the law from 1 year in prison to 5 years in prison..
     
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  14. Kazuma

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    Y'all are arguing against a guy whose high point in life was Lewandowski finally scoring a world cup goal.
     
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  15. Yoshou

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    I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.. If it is that the NARA should be paying more attention to when the VP leaves office, then yes, it really should. Particularly now that the VP position actually has a role in how the government operates. Prior to Gore, the VP position was largely a warm body position that did PR for the President. Starting with Gore, the VP would have actual duties related to getting laws passed/created.
     
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  16. marek

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  17. The Jitty Slitter

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    Are the lower level documents actually tracked?

    Like I know it is marked, but if say X copies are created for a certain distribution - does NARA have any kind of a library card system to know who has what and what is still out there?

    I haven't heard anything about how they would know what they should expect to get back.

    I had also heard that a particular difficulty of the Trump regime was the sloppy/lax handling of documents in the first place - such that classified stuff ended up all over the place
     
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  18. Smurfquake

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    I'm guessing that there were lots of meetings where someone printed out twenty-seven copies of whatever documents so that everyone in attendance got a copy. Then those copies got stashed in a drawer or a file cabinet somewhere, and then when that person left office, the contents of that drawer or file cabinet were dumped into a bankers box and put in a stack of bankers boxes in storage somewhere.

    Now there's different levels of classification. I'm guessing that the stuff that got printed out and distributed widely is not at the highest level of classification. The stuff that needs to be reviewed in a secure facility, certainly not. So whatever all these government folks received and stuffed in a file cabinet is not going to be the highly secure stuff. Compared with what Trump had in his possession, where we know that some of the documents were marked "top secret".
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

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    Yes - some of the stuff is from the old senate committee days - so likely not even SCIF stuff.
     
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  20. Yoshou

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    I don't know? I've never worked with classified documents myself, but from previous news stories there was a person that was responsible for signing out classified documents, at which point it was that person's responsibility to maintain security of the document and return and sign back in the document.
     
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  21. rslfanboy

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    There’s a lot of them, huh? All those lefty University Presidents…
     
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  22. Yoshou

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  23. Sounders78

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    The average faculty in my area makes well under $100,000, with newly hired probationary faculty in the $50,000-60,000 range if I remember correctly.
     
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  24. Kazuma

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    This was 2009 and the farthest I can remember looking back in those books was maybe 2000. I imagine rates went up but given that my alma mater had another strike, wouldn't be surprised if they didn't.
     
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  25. Sounders78

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    #6325 Sounders78, Jan 25, 2023
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    I've had three different Presidents at my current institution in the raging leftist part of Washington state. All three Presidents came from very heavily-orientated Republican states (we're talking hell would freeze over before those Southern or Midwestern states voted Democrat).

    The first President was extremely conservative and homophobic, including having invited me to leave the institution at my earliest convenience - I didn't because I am a very stubborn asshole (as you all know, I'm not one to back down from a fight regarding LGBT+ issues).

    The second one was conservative but tolerant (I wouldn't go as far to say accepting) of the very few gays we had on campus.

    The third one is liberal and desires that our faculty reflect the demographics of our community - we have a long way to go still.
     
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