The Issues in Women's Football

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  1. BIHfan

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    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 13, 2020
    Unfortunately these salary issues continue to plague women's football worldwide.
     
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  2. soccernutter

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    I'm sure we all know about Jess Carter during the Euros, but the issue is bigger.

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6844594/2025/11/28/england-keira-walsh-online-abuse/
    https://archive.is/cIKF4

    Keira Walsh says ‘you’d struggle to find’ any WSL player that hasn’t been abused online

    Chelsea midfielder Keira Walsh has said that players want to see more action taken to prevent online abuse directed towards women’s football players.

    The 28-year-old added that the majority of players in the Women’s Super League (WSL), the top level of women’s football in England, had received abuse online.

    UK-based threat monitoring service Moonshot said 3,000 social media posts containing “hostile or concerning content” were directed at England players and head coach Sarina Wiegman during the 2025 European Championship final alone.
     
  3. There's a simple solution, make every abuse cost the abuser 10,000€€, and if the person is not found or can't pay, make the platform pay that fine.
     
  4. roby

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    I think that only the male players should be abused. They don't have any fee fees! :whistling:
     
  5. soccernutter

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    Related to the above. And while this is about abuse in general, it does cover players and manager in the WSL.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c4g98zkx518o

    Premier League bosses Ruben Amorim, Arne Slot and Eddie Howe were the most common targets of abuse in the men's top flight, while Chelsea and their manager Sonia Bompastor faced 50% of all abuse in the WSL.

    A total of 61% of all abusive messages were sent from accounts in the UK and the Republic of Ireland, and the data suggests the overall number is on the rise.

    ...

    Controversy during Chelsea's 1-1 draw at Arsenal on 8 November sparked the vast majority of the 97 verified abusive messages posted about WSL matches.

    More than half targeted Chelsea boss Bompastor, including a threat of violence and a homophobic slur.

    "People think they can say anything they want from behind a screen," Bompastor said. "It's scary - I want to raise my voice against that.
     
  6. Lechus7

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    Wroclaw
    New FIFPRO report highlights precarious realities of two-speed calendar in women’s professional football - article

    REPORT (link)

     
  7. BIHfan

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    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 13, 2020
    This is a direct consequence of the introduction of the Nations League, among other things.
     
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  8. shlj

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    FC Nantes
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    France
    What is crazy is we end up in situation where a minority of players are overloaded and huge majority are underloaded. Hard to find a solution that will satisfy everyone.
     
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  9. BIHfan

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    Plus we end up with the same teams facing each other 4-5 times per year now.
     
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  10. Lechus7

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  11. soccernutter

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  12. Chizzy

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    Aug 7, 2003
    Upper Left, USA
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    The issues with women’s soccer: any negative publicity is still considered good publicity. I say f*** that.
     
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  13. Lechus7

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    #339 Lechus7, Feb 10, 2026
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    Players call for AFC partnership as FIFPRO Asia/Oceania research indicates 2026 Women’s Asian Cup will be biggest ever. (article on FIFPro)

    • The 2026 AFC Women’s Asian Cup prize pool currently represents just 12 percent of the men’s equivalent and is the lowest among comparable continental tournaments.
    (AFC Club Championship 2024 data):
    • 25% said football was not their primary source of income
    • 58% earned less than $10,000 from football annually
    • only 32% dedicated at least 20 hours per week to football
    (2024 SAFF Women's Championship data):

    • 38% of players said football was not their full-time occupation
    • 32% had other employment outside football
    • 62% felt additional financial support would improve preparation for future international competitions
    Prize purse.jpg
    Opportunities of the AFC Women’s Asian Cup 2026 (pre-tournament report)
     
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  14. soccernutter

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    Beyond the AFC number, what strikes me is how low CONFACAF is, only slightly above CAF. Yeah, I would not expect numbers anywhere near UEFA numbers, but still, with both the US and Canada involved, that just seems very low.
     
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  15. Yup.
    The rest together about 1/4 of UEFA's money, while Canada and USA are involved, is an eye opener.
    Any reason to the why of the USA/Canada tournement being so low?
     
  16. lil_one

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    #342 lil_one, Feb 10, 2026
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    It's the newest of the confederation championships; its inaugural year was the 2024 one. For comparison, AFC Women's Asian Cup is the oldest of all the confederation championships.

    I think it's even more enlightening to look at the comparison between the men's and women's tournaments in each confederation as it shows what a confederation is willing to spend on any tournament. CONCACAF has, by far, the best percentage comparison between the prize purse between the men's and women's tournaments. The women's total prize purse is 75% of the men's, and it's between fewer teams. The champions and runners-up of each tournament actually won the same in the most recent versions of each tournament. None of the other confederations come close to a similar parity, looking at either the totals or even if adjusted for the number of participants. Why is the total still so much lower than UEFA? Less money in CONCACAF, lower attendance in the tournaments, etc. Probably lots of reasons.
     
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  17. I would expect the tournement with the USA/Canada in it would pull more sponsor money, because of the USA being a superpower in soccer and with the commercial base of the USA to profit from.
     
  18. lil_one

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    Nov 26, 2013
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    In an inaugural year of a tournament? And, again, it's the confederation, not just the USWNT which is a powerhouse for the women's side, but not as much on the men's. You have to look at what CONCACAF can pull, not the USWNT. Although, if we talking the USWNT influence here, I would place a huge bet on it being because of the USSF lobbying for it that the men's and women's tournaments have the same prize purse; that was something that came out of the equal pay CBA.

    Plus, the women's tournaments where CONCACAF controls the ticketing are never as well-attended compared to USSF-controlled matches. The US has almost always hosted these CONCACAF tournaments to give them a fighting chance, but CONCACAF does so little to promote them that they have had historically poor attendance numbers. The W Gold Cup though did do better than previous CONCACAF tournaments.

    I'm not usually a CONCACAF defender, so this a strange position for me to be in, but I kind of feel like I've given multiple reasons here, and somehow I'm not communicating that there is a vast difference in how much money CONCACAF has and is willing to spend on their continental championships as opposed to UEFA.

    If we were really to point out the glaring "issue in women's football" in that chart above, it wouldn't be the CONCACAF tournament anyway. It would be the huge difference between CONMEBOL's men's and women's prize purse.
     
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