http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1213-02.htm Iraq's 12,000-page declaration of its weapons programs lists American companies that provided materials used by Baghdad to develop chemical and biological weapons in the 1980s, according to a senior Iraqi official. The public release of such a list could prove embarrassing for the United States and highlight the extent to which the Reagan and first Bush administrations supported Iraq in its eight-year war with neighboring Iran in the 1980s. U.S. military and financial assistance to Iraq continued until Iraqi President Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in August 1990. The Iraqi official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, would not name the companies or discuss how much detail the Iraqi declaration gives about them. The official said the American firms are named along with other foreign companies that provided arms and ingredients for making chemical and biological weapons to Iraq. Saddam was a friend when he gassed the iraqi curds. He received US military and financial assistance. Not only, the whitehouse (reagan if I remember well) blocked the sanctions voted by senate in reaction to that gassing. rumsfeld was the official envoy in irak. So we have those who tell us how bad he is, saddam, that actually helped him and protected him when his evilness was at his best. The beauty of western civilization in export version.
But ten years after it's time for a revival. Don't you laugh when bush tells everyone that saddam is the incarnation of evil? I mean just imagine a gangster giving the gun (and protection after the homicide) to the killer. After some years the gangster denounce the killer because of his ugly homicide. What's your reaction? "I knew all about it before so I don't care"?
Well my friend dont expect a reaction out of republicans they are proud that they're leaders are drug addicts, alcoholics and racist and that they're companies sell cigarrettes to our children and arms to iraqi...
Well, well. I'm certainly surprised that you didn't start a thread thanking Bush for asking for the extension of unemployment benefits. After all, it was you who started the whiney thread that Bush didn't care about you. I guess you're just a sniffling ingrate.
As far as I know it was my country and Germany that provided him with most of the gas. All hypocrits. I've said it before in another post. Our governments really don't care. They're the biggest criminals around.
If the gangster were afraid the killer was going to use his own gun against him, even though he provided him with the gun, what kind of moron would the gangster be not to get rid of the guy?
Sure, that way the gangster can expand his turf. Until another gangster comes around to make him pay for his treason. Scarface said they would have to bring an entire army. Guess again. If you give someone a gun and all of a sudden you are afraid he might shoot you with it... what kind of a moron are you anyway?
Sure, that way the gangster can expand his turf. Until another gangster comes around to make him pay for his treason. [/i] Wow, welcome to the fun world politics....maybe your country can participate in it more so you can realize that it isn't a game of ideals. If you give someone a gun and all of a sudden you are afraid he might shoot you with it... what kind of a moron are you anyway? If he shoots another guy who is just as powerful and threatening, it's called a 'calculated risk'.
Uhuh... so making enemies and not giving a crap because you think your military superiority will save your hide until two planes come flying through the WTC would be a miscalculated risk? Wouldn't it be time to get a decent calculator instead of letting Mr Bush ************ around with an abacus? Because that's what happening IMHO.
I actually looked it up in my dictionary just to make another nice metaphore... and this is what I get. Dammit!
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20021217/ts_nm/iraq_dc_252 "On Tuesday, the German newspaper Tageszeitung said the dossier showed the 80 German firms and institutes contributing to the Iraqi weapons programs since 1975 represented more than the combined total of all firms from other countries. It said the United States was a distant second with about two dozen companies listed in the Iraqi documents."
honestly, wakeupbomb, i would rather bush leanred from clinton about how to balance a budget and create jobs, although he cant do that while making sure his repubicans friedns all have jobs and their companies get as much corporate welfare as possible, while most americans starve and go without, he wouldnt know those things because he cant see them from his ranch, where he spends all of his time going from one vacation to the next
Times were different in the 80's. The Iranians happened to overthrow America's best allies(except Israel) in the Middle East. They also bulit an anti-western, fundemental Islamic state that Washington was not too happy about it. The Arab states, meanwhile, were not happy with the new Iranian government because they were -- 1) Persians, 2) Shiite fundementalists and 3) anti-monarchists. They were threats to the Sunni monarchies in the Persian Gulf. So the US and its allies used Sadamm Hussien to stop Iran and turned the Iraqi army into the 4th biggiest in the world. Having said that, I often wondered if Iraq never invaded Kuwait, what will Iraq's role be in the Middle East after 911??? Afterall, Iraq was one of the few secular states in the Arab world. Saddam Hussien also had a history of brutal crackdown on Islamic fundementalists. As for his crime against its people, Washington did not have a problem with them when Iraq was fighting Iran. And if there were no Kuwaiti invasion, Saddam Hussien would unlikely become an enemy of the US -- at least, not on the top of the list.
The Iranian embassy kidnappers in 1980 were backed by Iraq. The hostage takers came from some part of Iran that they felt was being oppressed by the government.
Uhuh... so making enemies and not giving a crap because you think your military superiority will save your hide until two planes come flying through the WTC would be a miscalculated risk? Making enemies is a part of world politics, unless you can enlighten me and tell me the last world power to have no enemies. I know you don't know much about it, since the Dutch are tiny and insignificant, but that's how it is. Wouldn't it be time to get a decent calculator instead of letting Mr Bush ************ around with an abacus? Other than the fact that some people can work just as fast with an abacus, I'd say we use the best calculator in the world.
In the list there are italian firms too. I'm not surprised at all. If you don't put a veto to the arms export you can't stop it. I think the best choice would be to avoid arms to be a market good.
Iraq had plans to invade Kuwait in the 1960's. British and Saudi troops went into Kuwait to stop such a plan. As for the Iraq-Iran War, the US backed Iraq until it realized that Iraq would be beyond Washington or Moscow's control if Iraq were to be victorious. It's teh fear that Iran might regain it's power if Hussein is toppled for the Kurds not to back a war.
Sorry but, every new President (Republican and Democrat) has always surrounded himself with people that he trusts along with helping out their interests. Also, why is that almost immediately after Bush became Pres (started before he took office) the economy started to wind down? I'm pretty sure that anything he signed off on did not go into effect that quick to cause the economy to slow. My personal belief was that once oil prices started to go up in the late nineties that that is what triggered our economy to slow. Also the high salaries that we grew accustomed to in the nineties were hard to support.