The Iraq Vote: Should it be Postponed?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Chicago1871, Dec 2, 2004.

  1. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
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    Bush Adamant on Iraq Election Schedule
    Uh, isn't that contrary to the current position of the US in Iraq you just addressed?
    That doesn't smack of Bush's ego at all. :rolleyes:
     
  2. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
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    Why...so you liberals can complain?

    Vote will go ahead... despite the leftist liberal pessimists!
     
  3. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

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    Eh. Vote, I guess, in this case, is better than no vote. Who knows?

    But isn't Allawi's own National Accord party FOR delaying the elections? According to NPR, here, this is the case.

    Is there any transparency for us as outsiders to be able to see these parties' platforms and to thus be at least aware of the promises they make, follow up upon, and abdicate should they win? Are the platforms of the parties even avilable, openly, to all Iraqis?

    What other institutions of democracy are being developed and/or employed in the nation besides the vote, and are those institutions themselves being voted on?
     
  4. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

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    People from the right and left are going to complain no matter if they happen or not.
     
  5. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    You could probably go back and change the poll to the following;

    Is Bush

    a) showing nuance, and acting all frenchy-like
    b) a hypocritical 2 faced leader who we can't trust to be consistent or do what he says
    c) flip-flopping
    d) so clueless that he probably doesn't even recognize the inconsistency of his directions
     
  6. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
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    I voted no. Whatever my opinion on how well Bush has or hasn't handled the occupation, we can't afford to let this thuggish 'insurgency' dictate the timeline.
     
  7. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

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    thuggish-ruggish bone?
     
  8. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

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    But is it worth a **** election. Having it just to have it isn't the point...well it is in Bush's world ("see Dad, I beat Saddam, and changed Iraq, what did you do?").
     
  9. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Isn't this election only to set up a temporary council that will draft the constitution. If this is the case then I say no. After all, NY only sent Alexander Hamilton to the US constitutional convention in 1787. As long as all groups are represented in some way, I don't see a point in delay.
     
  10. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
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    I guess I have reason to feel sympathetic towards all those who messed up their ballots in Florida in 2000! I wanted to vote "Yes" to the elections taking place, and ended up voting "Yes" to the postponment!
     
  11. sardus_pater

    sardus_pater Member

    Mar 21, 2004
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    I think the insurgency's timeline is 1) yankees go home 2) then elections.

    This is valid for the sunnis.

    The shiites (al-Sistani, al Sadr etc.) want the elections and are not currently part of the insurgency, if the results were to be different from what they like (and what it's likely to happen provided the elections are fair) they soon will become "insurgency". A tougher one.

    Did you ever heard ppl using the term "quagmire" referring to iraq?
     
  12. Mel B

    Mel B Red Card

    Nov 10, 2004
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    The black Watch will sort it out.
     
  13. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

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    [​IMG]

    Pink caddy-drivin', black boot stompin' yes...
     
  14. Mel B

    Mel B Red Card

    Nov 10, 2004
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    Hahaha, no mate, the British under cover squad. A top US commandow said America have got nothing like our lads. You think the SAS are good, these guys are better than your secret forces, by say, 100%. That tis all.
     
  15. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    No. The insurgency will be there three months from now, six months from now, so if that's the worry, it's better to stick to the timetable.
     
  16. Mel B

    Mel B Red Card

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    Taxi.
    Lovejoy.
    Back of the net.
    1 - 0.
    :D :D :D
     

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