The inevitable war with the USA

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  2. ElNaranja

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    Clearly you haven't been listening to them as they've had a permanent Pikachu face this whole year.
     
  3. Chesco United

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    An ex of mine used to work in an EU Center. I wonder who she'll support in the coming war.
     
  4. song219

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    Estados Unidos?
     
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    Ha! European Union. As a kid, whenever I saw EE.UU, I would say, Estados Unidos. Estados Unidos!
     
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    Really cool to see this level of cooperation maintained through the change in admins.


     
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    Highly recommend listening to the recent episode of WOTR regarding the Army Transformation Initiative. Army Secretary and Chief of Staff of the Army were both guests.

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  8. Ceres

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    Around two days ago, the CEO of the second largest container shipping company in the World Maersk told the Danish media that the US market has dropped by up to 40%, but also stated that all-in-all it has only been a 2% drop (including the USA) for Maersk world wide, because the world trade is just finding other options, leaving the USA behind. So Maersk is not worried.

    As for Denmark, then the export to the USA has dropped by 24% this year, but the export was on the other hand record high before Trump made his tariff speech, so all-in-all, the exports before his tariffs level caused the lack of exports right now, or in other words, they were doing everything to be proactive to keep price of Danish exports' as low as possible as long as possible for the US consumers, but obviously this will not last very long if Trump keep waging a war on tariffs.
     
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    Fall my Angel ;

     
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    #536 Ceres, May 14, 2025
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    According to the highly experienced former CIA agent and Naval Intelligence officer Malcolm Nance, he now consider it more or less inevitable that Trump will order a disastrous invasion of Greenland and explains why a military plan to seize Greenland would most surely fail.



    I will only add to the above, that should the USA insist on a "Goliath vs. David" stand-off, with Trump thinking that the white Anglo Danes and NATO will do nothing to defend the rights of a tiny "insignificant" population of "brown" Inuit Greenlanders, which is exactly what he has insinuated several times in the past, then he is in for a rude awakening.

    Denmark have already been assured by it's EU and NATO partners that they will side with and support Denmark if the USA invade Greenland, but this is all kind of besides the point, because as soon as the USA invade, they will automatically have declared war with not only Denmark but all of the Nordic countries (so also Sweden, Norway and Finland) that have an integrated all-for-one defense pact and the head of Denmark’s Defense Committee, Rasmus Jarlov, has stated that an invasion of Greenland by the USA will leave Denmark no other option than defending Greenland and it's territory, and since Canadian military personnel is stationed in Greenland, a US invasion will also make Canadian and US troops face each other, resulting in the USA being at war with Canada.

    Not to forget that both Canada and all of the Nordic countries have a separate defense agreement with the UK. In other words, the USA would find itself at war with all of the Northern part of the Globe, even before they trigger Article 5 and the EU defense pact and all of NATO and the EU is also dragged into it.

    The USA would then also be at war with all of the EU and see all their bases in Europe helplessly surrounded with no access to any infrastructure and logistics, no water, electricity or food and so would have no other option than to surrender and fold within a few days. Forget about Afghanistan or Vietnam, because the USA attacking Europe on European soil would be the biggest and quickest US military disaster in history, something that surely would be the end of Trump, but potentially also could make the USA implode on itself.
     
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    I think that a US versus the EU military fight would be a fair one.
     
  13. I think Trvmp will be shot when he gives that stupid Befehl.
     
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    I suspect if real planning was started for a Greenland invasion someone in the Pentagon would leak it so that domestic opposition would kill it and that Danish and other opponents would be properly warned.
     
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  15. Or someone would add some journalist to their unsecured chatroom, where the plan is fully displayed:D
     
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    The United States is examining the possible development of a twin-engined warplane to be known as the F-55, as well as an upgrade to its Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor called the F-22 Super, President Donald Trump said Thursday.

    Trump referred to the proposed F-55 as both an upgrade to the Lockheed Martin F-35 and a separate new development.

    He also highlighted the role of a new air dominance platform called the F-47, recently awarded to Boeing, and said the United States was simultaneously looking at upgrading the stealth fighter it is designed to replace, the F-22.
     
  17. Stealth fighters seen from space, against a white glacier background....win, win:ROFLMAO:
     
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    At least the US doesn’t have to worry about a naval invasion by Mexico.

     
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    It was an accident and at least two sailors died. You seem very indifferent making jokes about.
     
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    Empathy for others doesn't fit the narrative.
     
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  21. Ceres

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    Well, Greenland and a Danish/French mining consortium have now derailed a potential invasion by signing a 30-year mineral deal, before Trump suddenly put a 50% tariff on the EU the very next day, so Trump now should finally understand that Greenland want to make deals with respectable partners in Europe and not with billionaire grifters who want to steal their land and rob them blind.

    France were actually very quick to offer to deploy French troops in Greenland in defense of the EU borders when Trump started to threaten of an invasion. So far it's still on hold because Denmark respect that it would be up to the Greenlanders to request or agree to such an arrangement. But instead this mineral deal is now in place.

    Greenland Signs Lucrative Minerals Deal with Europe in Blow to Trump - Newsweek





    When cutting through all the MAGA bull-crap, then Denmark has no control over mining in Greenland, it's the Greenlandic government that have implemented very strict drilling and mining laws in the past because the Inuit are highly nature loving people.

    It may come as a surprise, but legally speaking Greenland is not really a territory but a province, so there is no such thing as a Greenlandic citizenship. Both the 4,000 born in Denmark and the Inuit are all Danish citizens and have Danish passports, but due to Danish soft-power there are differences from main-land Denmark, like not only is health insurance and care 100% free in Greenland, but also medicine and going to the dentists is free of charge (unlike in Denmark, where the dental part is only partly covered).

    Also while the VAT sales tax is 25% in Denmark on everything it's 0% in Greenland, so they have no VAT sales tax, which makes perfect sense considering that Denmark produce 3 times as much food as the Danes consume, while pretty much nothing is able to grow in Greenland and so has to be imported, making it more expensive as it is.

    Never the less, Greenland collectively belong to the Greenlandic people. In other words, unlike here in Denmark or the USA, where you can go buy a plot of land to build a house, or start mining and drilling on the land that belong to you, land cannot be purchased in Greenland, not even by the Greenlanders themselves. This is most surely also also why Trump feel the need for the USA to do an actual landgrab and annexation to be in control, because Trump and his billionaire MAGA friends are not able to buy land and build towers or mine and drill and exploit the Inuit as they wish, so long as Greenland is independent and ruled by the Greenlandic people themselves or are within the realm of the kingdom of Denmark.

    A sale of Greenland would also be a violation of the Danish constitution, so that option do not exist. Unfortunately this seem not to have been mentioned anywhere in the US media or elsewhere abroad.

    Truth of the matter is that there has been no communication between the Trump administration and the Prime minister of Greenland, or any other Greenlandic parliamentarian or official.

    When Trump Jr. made his MAGA propaganda visit, he only met with a handful of homeless people who were offered a free meal in exchange for wearing a MAGA cap for a photo op. When Vance, his wife, and US national security adviser Mike Waltz and energy secretary Chris Wright made their visit, it was only to the far away US Space base, so there were no contact with any of the inhabitants of Greenland, in fear of their reaction to the visit, well knowing that they were neither invited or wanted.

    The law also stipulate that an official foreign affair representative from Denmark has to be present at any talk and discussion between Greenland and a foreign country, just as the Danish government is not allowed to discuss Greenland, without a representative from Greenland. So even though the Danish Prime Minister have talked over the phone with Trump, and the Danish foreign minister have had talks with Marco Rubio, it was agreed that the subject of Greenland would not be discussed for the reasons just mentioned. They were only discussing China, Russia, Ukraine, the EU and NATO military contributions.

    Hopefully this Danish/French mining-deal with Greenland will be the final end of Trumps crazy invasion plans.
     
  22. Ceres

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    #547 Ceres, May 31, 2025
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    I'm going to promote the former CIA agent and Naval Intelligence officer, and according to himself, "Black man spy" Malcolm Nance, who is a very keen supporter of Ukraine and Denmark + Greenland. Obviously he is now working as a contractor, but only in favor of governments and countries he is personally in agreement with.

     
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    #548 Ceres, May 31, 2025
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    a bit more of Malcolm Nance from MeidasTouch:



    I personally have a collection of Danish silver coins more than a 100 years older than the USA, and the Danish ownership of Greenland is more than 3 times older than the existence of the USA. But we do not disrespect the Greenlanders quest of eventually being independent as soon as it is possible financially, while keeping their rights and privilege's, that do not exist in the USA.

    Denmark has been ranked the least corrupt country in the world the past 7 years in a row, while the Trump administration seem to want to bully and impose itself as the leader of "the free world" through being the most corrupt. We Danes now consider the USA as being a 3rd world dictatorship trying to spread poverty and serfdom much like Putin's Russia, and so we act accordingly.
     
  24. TimB4Last

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    @Ceres I just learned from a Netflix trailer that rising sea levels and climate change are forcing mass evacuations in Denmark. How unfortunate. Where is everyone going? Where will you go?
     
  25. roby

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    Why, Greenland of course. There's lotsa room there. :rolleyes:
     
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