Pre-match: The inevitable war with Iran

You don't know anything about the issue. And Iran does produce jet engines and turbo-jet engines of various kind.
https://www.defenceaviation.com/meet-owj-irans-first-indigenous-fighter-jet-engine/
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org...flaunts-new-missile-and-jet-engine-technology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEM_Toloue-4
As for the Kheibar Shekan missile, I specifically said that wasn't the Fateh ("Conqueror") hypersonic missile.

But Fabian Hinz that wrote the piece below is already having 2nd thoughts about some of what he wrote here based on Iran's latest missile strike.
https://www.iiss.org/en/online-anal...ing-the-hype-from-irans-hypersonic-conqueror/
Removing the hype from Iran’s ‘hypersonic’ conqueror
Iran’s wayward ‘hypersonic’ claims are a distraction from what is most interesting about the latest addition to its surface-to-surface missile inventory, the Fattah. Fabian Hinz considers the missile’s capabilities.

 

You're a delight.

Someone who actually knows all that you claim to know typically doesn't feel like they need to ostentatiously announce how much Secret Squirrel information you have, and what type, nor risk divulging it (if it IS what is claimed, instead of just hobbyist info grabbed from globalsecurity.org, Jane's, et. al.) in a public forum.

You and IM are PERFECT for each other.

 

Who was Mao killing? Japanese?

 

@waitforit
Since you are such a self proclaimed expert on jet engines, here are the leaders in Advanced Aircraft Engines (including hypersonics) research and technology:



https://www.aspi.org.au/report/critical-technology-tracker

 

Ok my dude

Iran best country everyone else is jealous. Their copies of 60s engines leave everyone stunned
Iran has a glide hypersponic missile that Qaher-313 can shoot now.

Timon quickly google Qaher-313 so you can become an expert by the time you reply again

 

Why would I, when you appear to have done that exact thing? I'm not into duplication of effort.

 

Besides being a leading technology power (top 5) in six (6) of 49 critical technologies, in terms of sheer number of engineers and engineering graduates, Iran is also one of the top 5.

 

Did I google Iran joke weapons and Qahaer 313 was the first result? Also this I know you are but what am I type of response is what smart people do. My dad can beat your dad, I am rubber I am glue for your encore?

This is not about being smart or stupid. This is about catching up. South Korea we can all agree are high tech and smart people. Yet they couldn't do their own tank without western help and almost 30 (?) years. It is hard to make your own advanced tank. They barely now can make tank engines that come close to the Germans.

Iran cannot simply go to bleeding edge quickly. Iran claims of such leaps are fiction.

 

It is a diversion. The hoopla about it a propaganda campaign by the usual suspects shooting straw men, proving that a prototype of a stealth fighter unveiled by Iran wasn't a real stealth fighter capable of actually flying! It was a long time ago, but the project has been pursued. A mock up did taxi tests a few years ago. The latest reports indicate the Qaher 373 will become an unmanned stealth jet fighter project. Apparently those who rank Iran among the top 5 in advanced jet engine research and technology aren't familiar with the propaganda to shoot straw men to turn simple minds to question everything Iran produces.

 

I did not post Iran's claims.

 

Those USA 237,826 I suppose are the numbers of graduates from US universities or MIT like institutions.
How many of those are actually Americans? My suspicion is that a boatload of that number are Asians from India, Taiwan etc. and from Europe.

 

I reiterate, you are a DELIGHT.

 

I was referring to the sources I had posted regarding the claims. Specifically, on how Iran ranks on Advanced Jet Engine technology. That was the post you had quoted.

 

The red book revolution was massmurder on a never seen before scale, including the millions of deaths caused by that revolution famine. It too doesnot qualify as a genocide.

 

The NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/18/world/middleeast/iran-missile-program.html
Iran’s New Missile Fleet: Part Deterrent, Part Sales Pitch
Last year, the world discovered that Iran’s drones were becoming world-class threats and a favorite of the Russians. Now, its revived missile fleet is drawing attention, too.

When Iran launched a barrage of airstrikes this week into Iraq, Syria and Pakistan, it was not just showing off the reach and sophistication of some of its newest missiles but also staking a claim: This is a new era in which Iran can flex its muscles at will and, as an added benefit, bolster its credentials as an important arms supplier.

In at least one of the attacks — a strike that Tehran claimed targeted the Islamic State terrorist group in Idlib, Syria — Iran appeared to make use of one of its longest-range and most advanced missiles, the Kheibar Shekan. Both the range and the apparent accuracy seized the attention of national security officials in Europe and Israel, as well as outside experts who track Iran’s technological advances.
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Unveiled in 2022, the Kheibar Shekan is a solid-propellant precision-guided missile that has a range of 1,450 kilometers, or about 900 miles — meaning it can hit Israel. But what makes it stand out from the rest of Iran’s arsenal is that its warhead can nimbly maneuver with tiny aerodynamic fins to evade at least some traditional air-defense systems.
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The decision to use the Kheibar Shekan this week in Syria when a less sophisticated missile would have been just as effective is being viewed as a sign that Iran may have been more interested in demonstrating its might to the West than in retaliating against a terrorist group.
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Irrelevant. Wopeee someone takes at face value the claims of Iran. Same shit they do with Russia. Lots of tell and very few show by Iran.

And again the people here have this annoying tendency of ignoring the bigger point to nitpick until the end of time. The scramjet was just an example of why not. My point is simple Iran is full of shit they did not make a hypersonic glider. And Fattah could be taken down with plenty of stuff

It is the same shit Russians did prior to this war. And people believed them. They ranked the SeCOnD BeST ARmy. If Ukraine had the western weapons from the beginning the frontline would have been Belogrod now

Amazing the people with Bachelor in Journalism can quote wikipedia and repeat what Iran says

Also my low opinion of NYT Post and WSJ and whatever has always been the same. So I am not now dismissing them because you quoted them

They do have quality sources in the US government so when they say x or y said that I believe that

 

This is pretty much the textbook definition of genocide.

 

What is amazing is you spamming nonsense. That piece in the New York Times is based on the comments and assessments of Fabian Hinz and Mike Esper, along with background from US, Israeli intelligence services monitoring the strikes. Sorry if it doesn't meet the high standards of the drivel from FOX, NY Post and Jerusalem post you are accustomed to!

 

Yeah lets listen to him

https://www.rferl.org/a/farda-briefing-questions-iran-hypersonic-missile/32448695.html

https://www.iiss.org/online-analysis/military-balance/2023/07/removing-the-hype-from-iran

The whole article is him dissmantling Iran's claims ...lol

Iran does not have HGV...but MaRV just like I said

Source?

 

That was his old assessment before the strikes. The NYT article shows what he has learned now. Like his articles disputing Iran's claims about the CPU and pression of Iranian missiles before Al Assad was struck and after. Or like articles before questioning Iran's ability to hit moving ships by its ballistic missiles before versus now...
Anyway, you believe as you wish. The audience the message was intended for got the message.

 

Isnot the manouvrebility of either HGV or MaRV a bit overstated? If it's true hypersonic it goes almost 3 to 5 miles a second.
Supposing you make it re-enter the atmosphere not far from your target, that would be about 50 miles from it. So how can you maneuvre something that fast (within 10 seconds from impact) without the chance missing it?

 

Incidentally, I had alluded to all this before:

 

Link the exact quote

I am quoting the experts you told me are experts

Mike Esper is a Fox News regular contributor. Googleing IS fun!

I know. I even quoted it