Pre-match: The inevitable war with Iran

I’m saying that Iranian hostility to the United States is entirely understandable given the history, which I summarized in a post that you didn’t quote.

 

When you say “Iran” who are referring to? The Ayatollah/mullahs or average citizens who haven’t been swallowing state propaganda?

Since I don’t live there, do you believe the average Iranian millennial hates America and wants America “to die”?

And despite their “hostile feelings” do you believe the actions taken by the Iranian regime over the last 45 years were a justified expression of those hostile feelings?

 

Indeed. In addition to that, Tulsi Galbard, director of US national intelligence, said in march that "Iran did not build nuclear weapons, and (...) Khamenei had not authorized the nuclear weapons program he suspended in 2003". I wonder that so few people do not question the reliability of the evidence. The 'Colin Powell' moment should however make people suspicious.

 

There was not all the religious/millenarian shit found in the Israeli-Iranian conflict though. You would hardly find any French (or German, I guess) wanting the complete annihilation of the other side.

 

Indeed, Israel is the only country in the world that has been tacitly granted the right to kill. Officially, 55,000 people have died in Gaza (many more, in reality), and guess what ? Israel enjoys almsot total impunity. The bombing of civilians in sovereign countries in the region? No sanction from anyone. "Application of rules is different from any other nation" as you say, but not in the sense you imply.

 

Does anyone think Israel is doing this without the approval of the US?

 

Iran claiming a military base is under this hospital



https://bsky.app/profile/johnridge.bsky.social/post/3lrwuebhf3s2m

 

I will never deny a country's right to defend itself. But Israel's unique situation should not be a free ticket for acting like a rogue state. I'm not even sure acting like this will make the country safer on the long term, btw.

 

War, especially in this day and age, can be very fluid. But for now, as someone who was in regular daily contact with friends and relatives in Iran, (at least until yesterday when Iran shutoff the internet) what I can say is that Israel's campaign is notable for being mostly a propaganda campaign hoping to see Iran's regime destabilized and collapse. And that has meant presenting a picture of this war totally at odds with reality, trying to project a picture of "winning" after in fact largely failing ever since their shockingly effective surprise operation taking out Iran's military leaders and nuclear scientists through drones and car bombs by operatives inside Iran (along with aircraft firing missiles from outside Iran). The only substantial change for Israel since then has been Israeli warplanes being able to conduct limited operations inside, but to this day I have not heard anyone hear Israeli manned warplanes break the sound barrier and operate overhead the city. And Iran's air defenses have been very active shooting at Israeli projectiles (drones, missiles etc) although Israel does have the firepower to overwhelm them and hit specific targets with great accuracy (but limited force and munitions that don't carry much weight fired from a distance). Anyway, I'm glad CNN now has someone (Fred Pleitgen) reporting from Tehran. I just wish you could have reporters from Israel report as freely as Israeli military censorship is so severe that what you end up with is simply a hugely distorted and sanitized version of 1/10th truth and 9/10th lies.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/19/world/video/cnn-reporting-from-tehran-digvid

 

Indeed, this is confirmed by the US' own Director of National Intelligence.....[checks notes]......Tulsi Gabbard.

 

Israel has a long history of doing things without the US approval. Indeed, Ukraine quite literally said that they took a page from Israel when they invaded Kursk without US approval. The US is ultra-cautious and hates that type of stuff but if it works and it might go to their advantage they retroactively start supporting them.

 

The brilliant Dennis Fang has an excellent analysis on why Israel is choosing this moment to attack Iran. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wfXGdO4eJKM

 

Well, sorta. It's long been argued that Israel can either be a democracy OR a Jewish state but it can't be both.

https://www.btselem.org/publications/202210_not_a_vibrant_democracy_this_is_apartheid

 

Dude, the info about the flights came from Flightradar24, not some dodgy source.

 

Well, I guess information disruption/desinformation war is taking off:
https://www.financialexpress.com/wo...urfaces-ahead-of-trump-munir-meeting/3883794/

 

If she was lying (i assume under oath) That makes your entire government a joke with no credibility in the face of the world. No laughing matter

 

This is a really bad take on that time period. There no real difference between "religious shit" as you put it and ethnic hatred.

 

Another part of the infowar, with a claim not confirmed by Pakistan, but that's part of creating uncertainty:
https://www.financialexpress.com/wo...el-if-says-iranian-official-amid-war/3881083/

 

Trump & credibility (Bibi too) are not things that go together.

 

???
Could you, or anybody else for that matter put proof on the table for "ethnic hatred" being part of the wars between France/England/Germany?

 

That's literally my opinion of every government in the world. It's doubly true of both the current US and Bolivian governments but that's probably because I am more intimately familiar with both. I'm sure if I ever care enough to look into Canada's government more I will find my disdain grow for them as well.

 

It's obviously wrong but now people on bothsides like to attack hospitals while calling them fronts for underground terrorist activities

 

The US government, as currently constructed, is absolutely a joke. I don't think you would find any serious person that would deny that.