Pre-match: The inevitable war with Iran

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  1. The Irish Rover

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    Take this with a grain of salt but there's footage circulating from Tehran airport of limousines speeding up to passenger jets, purportedly to take the families of regime insiders or even the insiders themselves out of the country.

    I'm not going to link to them because while the Twitter feeds I saw them on belong to very reputable sources, they weren't 100% of the footage's validity. However, Iranian airspace has been closed since yesterday. In which case, it's very odd that civilian aircraft have been flying out of the country since this afternoon
     
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  2. Germerica

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    Sounds like there is a lot of frustration among Iranian leaders on how they have to simply absorb Israeli attacks and control of their airspace and have very little in the way of defending themselves.

    Walter Mead puts it well…

    Iran had long anticipated an Israeli attack and had plenty of time to plan. That its response was as ineffectual and poorly orchestrated as last night’s suggests both that Israel’s initial strikes were enormously successful and that Iran’s strategic planning is overrated.
     
  3. The Irish Rover

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    It worked and will work with Iran, partly because the regime's own geriatric incompetence and paranoia leaves them unable to read a room, but mostly because Iran while Iran, like several countries, has no shortage of enemies, its list of friends has to be the shortest in the world.

    "Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys" will be the reaction of just about everyone in the Gulf, the Middle East, Europe, and Asia
     
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  4. Robert Borden

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    I tried to rescind it but I was too late. The source is the Hebrew Channel 13. I'm sure they wanted to convey that the leadership was safe and working to reassure civilians...the optics though

    anyways...Noted that they aren't a reliable source
     
  5. superdave

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    Detective Munch said it on Homocide
     
  6. Germerica

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    Iran shut down internet access nationwide.

    Elon Musk responded by activating Starlink in Iran, posting: “The beams are on.”
     
  7. superdave

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    Mehdi Taremi of Inter Milan is stuck in Iran and will miss at least the beginning of the CWC
     
  8. DoyleG

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  9. yasik19

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    So the only people and targets the Iranian terrorist regime is able to kill so far are all civilian. All buildings are apartment and/or residential areas.
     
  10. yasik19

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    Just waiting for the usual suspects who seem to only care about Israeli killings of children and civilians to comment on Iran doing the same.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/6-dea...sktop_site&utm_campaign=liveblog-june-15-2025

    At least six people were killed, over 100 were injured, and three were missing after an Iranian ballistic missile slammed into a residential building in the central city of Bat Yam overnight Saturday.

    The barrage was Iran’s second overnight attack, triggering sirens and sending residents of Tel Aviv, much of central Israel, Ashdod and parts of Jerusalem into shelters just after 2:30 a.m., with impacts later being reported in Bat Yam, Rehovot and Ramat Gan.

    Six people — including an 8-year-old girl, a 10-year-old boy, and an 18-year-old boy — were killed in Bat Yam, and over 100 were wounded, rescue services said.
     
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  11. Umar

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  12. yasik19

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    Yawn. Typical response from regular apologists. No acknowledgment at all of what sites are being targeted on purpose. No difference at all, right? Pathetic.
     
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  13. Umar

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    Did you mention the israeli targeting of the residential block in Tehran which killed 20 kids? Or did you yawn then as well because those kids weren’t Jews?
     
  14. yasik19

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    They only targeted specific targets (IRGC and scientists responsible for the nuclear program). Yes, it absolutely sucks that the families of those scientists are victims of this another round of conflict, but as little as it matters to those families, the targets weren't indiscriminate. Something that the Iranian missile attack clearly is.
     
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  15. Umar

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    Yeah, that’s what I thought. Only the Jewish kids matter.

    It absolutely sucks about them israeli kids too. Terrible shame that the israelis started a war and caused their deaths.
     
  16. WhiteRM

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    Could you share with us why do you support terror country and the only thing that you can bring to the table is Whataboutism and Anti-Semitic lies?

    Are you also saying that it's sad that Hamas started war and caused their deaths?
     
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  17. Umar

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    No, but thank you for your question.
     
  18. WhiteRM

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    Why not? I really want to hear what the human rights champion and peacemaker has to say about what I asked.
     
  19. babaorum

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    Could be true, but I think few foreign leaders -if any- went as far as Chirac when it came to directly confront to Netanyahu.

    Avi Pazner, the former Israeli ambassador to France, recounts a meeting in the late 90's in which Chirac directly told Netanyahu that he really didn’t like it – "I don’t believe a word out of your mouth. Your whole policy is to provoke the Palestinians.”

    In the words of Pazner, among "hundreds of conversations between heads of state" that he had personally witnessed, he had "never witnessed a conversation like this". Netanyahu "went all white" as Chirac - himself "red with anger" - said this and after the meeting ended, Netanyahu sighed: "Thank God it’s over."



    That was at a time France actually still had a pro-palestinian policy, however by maintaining his alliance with Israel. Sarkozy put an end to it.
     
  20. Umar

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    Because you’re not very smart. It would be like talking to a lettuce.
     
  21. WhiteRM

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    The projection here is just prefect.
     
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  22. yasik19

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    It's pointless to discuss anything with Umar. He's blind with Jewish hate and bigot of the highest order. He has no remorse for any deaths that are not Palestinian. He's also one of the few posters who outright denied any rape claims on Hamas part. Best to ignore ... Something I need to start doing more often myself.
     
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  23. I watched something weird about the iron dome in a newsreport.
    While there were people talking they showed a footage loop of I suppose iron dome actions against Iranian missiles/drones?.
    At a given moment two "flares" some distance away from each other took off the ground going up into the sky, I suppose iron dome missiles.
    After a few seconds one of those made a curve and hit the other one.
    Can't these things discriminate between Iranian stuff and their own defensive stuff?
     
  24. Umar

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  25. waitforit

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    #4125 waitforit, Jun 15, 2025
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    Well you see he wants a Muslim Caliphate where Shakira (praise her hips) law is mandatory. Muslims only. I am not joking or exaggerating. He wants the western countries (he lives in one) to openly greet Muslims while his ideal country has 0 non Muslims. He is not radical Islamist though. That is why he likes to deflect so much.

    Go ahead Kumar tell the people I am lying

    So yes ignore and maybe some others finally get why I personally think he is a vile human being

    Oh an Kumar I see you like my predictions: here is my prediction of how the war between Iran and Israel would go.

    And like I said, Hezbollah are done

    Nice bonus I found. IM predicting Israel would lose a war vs Hezbollah. I guess Hezbollah >> Iran now. Only 4 more days

     

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