Pre-match: The inevitable war with Iran

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  1. Robert Borden

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    Have they acquire nuclear weapons? Last time they were inspected - they did not
     
  2. Yoshou

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    I was just saying it is possible for a country to have nuclear energy without having an enrichment program. I didn't say it was a violation of the NPT.

    Again, not disagreeing with your timeline above.
     
  3. Yoshou

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    #3878 Yoshou, May 9, 2025
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    It's largely semantic at this point. Iran has 274kg of uranium enriched up to 60% and it takes 42kg of 60% enriched uranium to make one atomic bomb of 90% uranium. They have also increased the rate at which they are enriching Uranium up to 60% having added 90kg between November 2024 and February 2025. Iran also has the bombs themselves created, so just needs another round of enrichment to get up to 90% and an assembly process to get the bomb.

    https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuc...ranium-trump-0b11a99a7364f9a43e1c83b220114d45

    And yes, it is very odd that the Trump administration expects Iran to abide by the nuclear deal the Obama administration, EU, and Iran agreed to, while the US does not abide...
     
  4. Robert Borden

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    And that's justification to bomb them why exactly?

    Let's be real, the US would just find another excuse no matter what they do to go at them. Isn't that why the deal was violated?

    However, If such a deal is necessary - the US has lost all credibility to be at the table. Other parties/guarantors needs to be at the negotiation table
     
  5. Yoshou

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    Can you link me to a post where I said anything remotely close to this.

    Kthnxbai
     
  6. Germerica

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    The B2s are ready to go though
     
  7. SF19

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    Not happening. Trump told Bibi he's a scumbag and to f*ck off. Good on Trump.
     
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  8. ElNaranja

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    If they were truly worried about nukes inIran maybe they shouldn't have torpedoed the deal that did exactly that.

    But it was made by a black man so priority number one was to tear it up.
     
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  9. Germerica

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  10. Germerica

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    US embassy in Baghdad being evacuated. Sounds like something could be going down regarding Israel and Iran.
     
  11. Germerica

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    Israeli sources are reporting that fighter aircraft can be heard tonight over Northern and Central Israel, believed to likely be departing from airbases and heading northeast towards Syria.
     
  12. Germerica

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    Iran jamming GPS signals in Iraqi airspace
     
  13. American Brummie

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    Oh and then the unverified news updates stop? What happened next, Germy???
     
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  14. teammellieIRANfan

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    Israels ability to do anything about Irans nuclear infrastructure, without heavy lifting from the US, is very much in doubt. The destruction of Irans atomic program requires sustained bombardment by a strategic airforce, which only the US possesses, as opposed to a tactical airforce that Israel has.
    The objective could be to start something which would inevitably draw in the US.

    This could also be posturing to force Irans hands to accept the terms that Trump has put forward.
    The probability of war has definetely gone up. I would put it at 50/50.
     
  15. yasik19

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    Eh, I doubt. It's not much of a surprise if the whole world is reporting on it.
     
  16. teammellieIRANfan

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    The scene has certainly been set for it, posturing or not. With the movement of strategic bombers to Diego Garcia, evacuation of personel etc.

    Sometimes these things have a life of their own and become a self fulfilling prophecy.
     
  17. Germerica

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    I've seen reports that the sixth round of talks are off, but other reports that the US will still be meeting with Iran this weekend.

    Since it doesn't sound like Israel has hit Iran yet, I wonder what those Israeli fighter jets were mobilized for.
     
  18. Germerica

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    Per Trump: "I want to have an agreement with Iran. I'd much prefer an agreement. As long as I think there is an agreement, I don't want [Israel] going in ... I'd much prefer the friendly route."
     
  19. Cris 09

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    He said he'd have it in two weeks.



    He said that, *checks notes* two weeks ago....
     
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  20. PJ234

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    So will it happen or not
     
  21. Germerica

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    And?
     
  22. Germerica

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    Axios reporting that the US has informed Israel that it will not be participating in an airstrike on Iran. So no bunker busters.
     
  23. teammellieIRANfan

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    Too much flip flopping by Trump (on every single foreign policy issue) to take anything he says at face value. He cant conduct a coherent and consistent policy on pretty much anything.
     
  24. Wonder if bibi is going to make the mistake to rely on back up by the evil D. Duck and attack Iran.
     
  25. superdave

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    I’d be very, very surprised.

    The “TACO” thing has legs because Trump does, in fact, always chicken out.
     
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