Pre-match: The inevitable war with Iran

I have been posting in here since 2008 and have never used a sock.

You need help.

 

Nederlands fregat mag ondanks beste rakettenradar ter wereld niets doen tegen Iran
De Telegraaf|3 days ago
Het Nederlandse fregat Zr. Ms. Tromp, met de beste rakettenradar ter wereld aan boord, deed dit weekend niet mee toen de Iraanse raketten opstegen. Waarom moest onze marine op de handen blijven zitten

Dutch frigate is not allowed to do anything against Iran despite the best missile radar in the world
De Telegraaf|3 days ago The Dutch frigate HNLMS Tromp, with the best missile radar in the world on board, did not participate this weekend when the Iranian missiles took off. Why did our navy have to sit on its hands?

We got the best radarsystem in the world, a Dutch/French developed system GM 200 MM/C by Thales Hengelo in the Netherlands, together with the technical university in Twente.
Might be because it's assigned to fight Houthi projectiles, but still...

 

How do they do those shows with hundreds of lit drones in the night performing dazzling looking choreographies?

 

I've always thought of you as a Batman villain too

 

let’s be honest you aren’t doing research. You scour the internet to post links to other people’s research.

Unless you are literally skulking about Israel inspecting its bases. Which you aren’t.

 

This could be a game changing development if solved.
For instance that new Dutch/French radar system has incredible specs and when you can apply those on on the ground targets with swarm drones, you really don't want to be on that battle ground.

 

I'm sure they have drones that use cellular transmitters that don't require line of sight and/or spread spectrum designs that are less susceptible to jamming.

GPS jamming is a different animal - not sure how you get around that.

 

There are camera drones that can search and track objects/animals/persons by recognition software. Once they locked on a "target" they find it back, even after having lost sight by the target disappearing under trees.
Incorporating such technology does away with the need for gps, unless I'm overlooking something.

 

Indeed. I have two that do this .

Possibly. But I only know about consumer drones that cost low four figures and are designed to go no more than 5 miles away.

 

Say you launch thousands of drones that are attempting to swarm a target. Each individual drone doesn't need to be engaged, they can be taken out with a burst from an EMP device. The US, and I'm sure other fighting forces, are developing defensive weapons that do exactly that.

 

I've been told last year you can't "aim" an emp burst, so unless you're own equipments is without transistors, you not only take out the drones, but your own equipment too.

 

I'm sure people much smarter than me are exploring how it can be done.

 

Yeah, but even smart people can't bend the laws of physics.

 

“Research” does not mean “field investigation”. If I look through archives (physical or digital) to find out something about a topic, that’s research. If I look through a library (physical or virtual) to see what other commentators have to say about a topic, that’s research.

I get that you don’t like IM but arguing for arguments sake is silly. He is one of the few people here who have an actual first hand insight into Iran.

 

The U.K. is developing laser weapons to deal with drones, they say they should have them by 2027:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68795603

 

If that's the case, you can pre-program routes into unmodded mavics, making a real-time radio link less vital.

Depending on how the mods are done (i.e., no battery mods?), long-range comms may not be all that important anyway because those things have a flight time of 30 minutes. Anything beyond 5km and you're probably not planning to have them return.

Though if you're using them for recon, then the radio link becomes vital.

 

The discussion about EMP weapons worries me a bit as some pro Israeli outlets are pushing for Israel to conduct a nuclear EMP attack on Iran to reestablish deterrence. On the other hand, Iran may have an EMP capability as well, although these kind reports in tabloids such as the Daily Mail are usually sensationalist nonsense. That said, I hope Israel doesn't even joke, whisper, or suggest any more than it has about nukes or EMPs as I am sure if they do, they will end up being obliterated by Iran one way or another. No matter the cost to Iran.

p.s.
ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSE WEAPONS (EMPs) Electromagnetic pulse weapons (EMPs) use light, lasers, invisible microwaves and electromagnetic energy to cut off electricity - and experts claim Iran has EMPs in their arsenal. The US military warned in 2018 that Iran was developing such arms and the deadly consequences they could have if used, estimating that an EMP attack on American soil could kill millions in the utter chaos they would create.

 

From what I've read about emp as a weapon, but I'm not an expert, far from that, to cause that kind of havoc, the only "device" capable of that is a nuclear detonation.
I don't think much of Iran as a state is left over, after they pulled a stunt like that.
Anyway, to be effective the nuke Israel would use according to several sources need to be high above earth, but with the catch it spreads over an area that also includes Israel.
Lower than that you need a number of nukes, which in fact means you nuked Iran and the respons will be without a doubt with all gloves off.

 

Unlike the conventional capabilities of both Iran and Israel, which I have followed very closely the past couple of decades, I must admit my knowledge and familiarity with these issues is extremely limited. But I do know that "EMP warriors" sometimes publish pieces where they claim certain satellite launchers used by Iran can also be used in an EMP attack. see for instance:
https://securethegrid.com/did-iran-just-demonstrate-they-can-take-down-the-united-states/
Did Iran just demonstrate they can take down the United States?


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According to Ambassador R. James Woolsey (former Director of Central Intelligence), Dr. William Graham (former EMP Commission chairman and White House science Advisor to President Reagan), Ambassador Henry Cooper (former director of the Strategic Defense Initiative), and Fritz Ermarth (former National Security adviser to President Reagan and chairman of the National Intelligence Council):

“We assess, from U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency reports and other sources, that Iran probably already has nuclear weapons. Over 13 years ago, prior to 2003, Iran was manufacturing nuclear-weapon components, like bridge-wire detonators and neutron initiators, performing non-fissile explosive experiments of an implosion nuclear device, and working on the design of a nuclear warhead for the Shahab-III missile.”
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Ironically, while electric power lobbyists resist EMP protection of the U.S. grid, five years ago Iranian press reported Tehran is violating international sanctions and going full bore to protect itself from nuclear EMP attack. The article “Iran Builds EMP Filter For First Time,” Mehr News Agency June 13, 2015, depicts a satellite making an EMP attack.

 

Oh no. I'm scared.

 

I wouldn't give credence to these articles. Until Iran says is otherwise, its policy is against developing nuclear weapons. But, at the same time, those who like to pretend that Iran will need 6 months to 2 years to weaponize enriched uranium for a nuclear warhead are almost certainly wrong. I am confident that all work and components for weaponization have already been carried out by Iran and within a couple of weeks of deciding to develop a nuclear arsenal, Iran will have a dozen or more such weapons. (The IAEA estimate of Iran being able to enrich enough uranium for only 3 weapons in a couple of weeks is based on static estimates and inaccurate IMO).