Pre-match: The inevitable war with Iran

Iran did not cause any significant material damage and no human casualties is literally what happened

You are on a football website. You point is literally sure the others scored goals but look at the possession and how many times we hit the crossbar

The delusion of some of you is amazing. Between Robert "BRICS is totally the future yo" and Umar "HAMAS are not capable of rape" and a few others that say things like "Israel is on the brink of defeat" what I learn in PCE every day is amazing. HAMAS is close to conquering Tel Aviv I guess

So you get it... it was an expensive fireworks show

The base in is the desert and Israel has a habit of not downing stuff that they know won't hit anything. Also hitting a runway is what a few hours of repairs. Hitting the dirt near is base is called hitting the base

I mean it would be on par for Iran to declare this a "great success"

I honestly thought that this show of fireworks won't fool anyone but again I am on a website where people say things like HAMAS is not capable of rape and a guy who says relevant people's opinion don't matter as we all someone's son

BTW when I posted last time Iran barely launched the Shaheds and all I was reading from like minded people like you is how the second - most devastating - wave is coming and that the Shahed was just a small part

Now to hear form the same people that the attack was a massive success. It was such a massive success tv stations are showing a huge fire from Texas as an successful hit

That is why I am saying Israel retaliating would be stupid.

 

What I meant was if you want to define failure by how much casualties or material damage you cause, then you are watching too much G.I Joe.
You define failure by whether or not your you achieve a certain strategic objective.
And I would argue that the jury is not out on that yet, given Iran's objectives as previously stated, and what the Israeli reaction will be.

But I take it from your response you did not really thoroughly read my post or understood the essence of it, so I will not waste further time and energy on this.

 

Yes
Next question. I am not "feelings" or a "hearts and minds" person

I understood your post. You think Iran was showing Israel the finger and saying next time it will be worse. BUT it was fireworks show to show their domestic audience how powerful Iran is. And for a bunch of people that like to brag they dot not fall for Iran propaganda you sure didn't fell for it

It is the same shit Russia does for theirs but somehow the western top minds fall for that too

PS: for a bunch of people who keep repeating that HAMAS didn't start the escalation on October 7th you sure say this attack happened because of the consulate attack

 

Once the dust settles, censorship restrictions ease, we can better understand the impact of the strikes. For now, what is indisputable is that 4 separate targets were hit by ballistic missiles (carrying 500+kg warheads): 2 Israeli air bases (with the IDF only confirming the hit on the Nevatim base even though the Ramon base was hit even harder), an Israeli military base in the Golan and an Israeli base in Arad. You can see those on the map from the Washington Post below.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/14/mapping-wide-scale-iranian-drone-missile-attacks/

 

You can see Israeli censorship rules in the videos being posted on western media. Those rules preclude showing missiles impacting. Hence, once missiles reach a target and cause an explosion, the camera (instead of zooming in, zooms out). This video is from the Guardian.

 

Can't blame @waitforit for not getting it. How can Iran claim any kind of success when they didn't bomb hospitals, schools or killed civilians/ Israeli children?

Not enough shit blowing up or blood being spilled - NATO style, which makes the US and allies pledge to go on a full diplomatic counterattack the more ridiculous. Who's going to care about that?

Like you said, too much GI Joe

 

I am sure those Shaheds all would have hit military bases had they not been intercepted.

Iran needs to hit something to claim anything. But again you think China and Russia would intervene on behalf of Iran so you clearly know your shit.

I wasn't aware of the point of striking (military) targets was to not actually hit them. I guess I did watch too much Transformers.

 

Iran hit 4 different IDF bases. That is clear.

 

What an idiot. Still posting here as if he was an expert though.

 

Not that is not clear.

And stop quoting washingpost

You quoted the same prediction "HAMAS does not rape" boy

You think that saying the same thing several times is different things or something. How stupid are you?

 

It's as if you think Iran didn't do their homework and had no knowledge of Israel defense capabilities while taking into account that the west would also help them to intercept incoming threats. Smh

Lastly, how do you know they didn't hit their intended targets? Because Israel and western MSM said so? Right, they never get anything wrong or mislead anyone...ever

As for the Russia, China part - you've demonstrated at large throughout multiple threads that geopolitics is a concept that truly escapes you. Does Syria or Ukraine rings a bell?

 

So you are agreeing with me? That it was all theatre and expensive fireworks

You can't hide massive casualties and hits on anything these days.

BRICS any day now. BTW you should move in any of those countries

China has entered the war vs Ukraine?

Where are the J-20s

 

Stop talking about yourself

 

Too much GI Joe
US intelligence finding shows China surging equipment sales to Russia to help war effort in Ukraine
https://apnews.com/article/united-states-china-russia-ukraine-war-265df843be030b7183c95b6f3afca8ec

 

I guess on that definition India is supporting Ukraine too

To make it very clear. I hate this vague shit. You hide under the "support" claim. Support can mean both blankets or nuclear submarines

If Iran is attacked you think China and Russia will give weapons like tanks and jets to Iran? Help on par to what NATO is currently giving Ukraine.

Or they would intervene themselves?

 

Oh no is Russia gonna send meat waves of infantry across the Bering Straits whatever will our advanced military dooo

 

With respect, it isn't. Not from international news sources.

At the moment, those sources are almost unanimously reporting

331 missiles and drones launched at Israel:

* 36 Cruise Missiles - 36 shot down
* 185 Kamikaze Drones - 185 shot down
* 110 Ballistic Missiles* - 103 shot down​

That's 7 missiles getting through but "getting through" doesn't mean hitting the target, only that they didn't crash and the air defenses didn't shoot them down. 7 missiles to hit 4 targets requires a lot of accuracy from them.

It's also hard to keep individual hits secret these days, especially when the official line is that only one was hit and is being pushed hard at every opportunity.

 

People have access to satellites

But we won't be getting some info today as apparently it is cloudy

So tomorrow or next week whatever the hits will be apparent. If they are big Israel cannot hide them. If they can hide them it means they weren't big to begin with.

 

Sending your soldiers to fight is entering a war. Sending military advisors who don't fight is definitely not entering a war. Neither is sending weapons. All China is sending is components and machinery.

It isn't entering the war, which you either knew but were too lazy/cowardly/dishonest to accept or are too stupid to understand.

 

I stand by what I mentioned. Those "sources" are all reporting numbers reported by the IDF. You can look at the bases impacted (4) in the map by the Washington Post in this report here. In terms of the number of missiles that hit each target, you can count at least 5 hitting just the Ramon air base here. If you follow the descending path of other missiles shown in other videos you can see a lot more than 7.

 

Here is a raw video showing 8 missiles impacting their target in this one location.

 

1) "Allegedly" is doing a lot of the heavy lifting. Anyone can allege anything, especially on social media.

2) "Allegedly declared" is an oxymoron. A declaration is a clear, public and official statement.

3) "Support" is also doing some heavy lifting. The Russian air force is support. So is a vote at the UN. Which is it?

Stop throwing out incontinent word salad.

 

Again with the insults... why are you so weak?

The other weakling was asking if China entered the war with his J20 comment, I provided the article showing that the current level of Chinese support towards Russia has pissed off Washington who sent Yellen to threatened them with sanctions - meaning that if the conflict ever got expended, you can expect other parties to support Iran as well.

Again, stop being this soft...embarrassing

 

I don't know, enlist other nation's troops to do the fighting for you?

 

Again define the word support. Why is it so hard to answer a simple question

It is the same video repeated 4 times