The Inevitable War with Iran is Looking a Little More Imminent

Oh there is absolutely no QUESTION this will massively encourage states to try and get their own nukes, either by developing them themselves or by effectively 'buying' them as was done by the Pakistanis when India got theirs.

 

His whole life does so it tracks

 

You are not wrong that Iran could have complied with JCPOA, but what incentive did they have? Would the US have lifted the economic sanctions that was destroying their economy? No…

On the other hand, if Trump hadn’t walked away from JCPOA, we would have either had an Iran that was nuclear related sanctions free and without a nuclear program, or an Iran with even more economic sanctions for failing to comply with JCPOA..

So.. Again… If Trump hadn’t walked away from the JCPOA, whether Iran complied or not would have been on Iran. Instead, Iran had no incentive to comply, and, in some ways, they had an incentive to NOT comply in the hopes that their non-compliance would bring the US to the negotiation table.

 

Why he walked away? Doing the opposite of what the Kenyan Commie did & Bibi/Israeli hawks hated it. Not much more complicated than that. He wouldn't know a centrifuge from a hole in the wall.

 

Weeeeeee

 

I think we'd agree that Iran miscalculated and that their decision not to comply was ultimately very costly, or so it would seem.

 

New bombings in Tehran after ceasefire announced

Minutes to go. Get those last bombs in.

 

US believed in having two allies in the Middle East that it could definitely rely on for a long time was Israel and Iran until the revolution then Iran became Iraq and now they're trying to use Qatar but I think with it still a little too far for them to get into China and Russia.

 

We are products of our experiences and one thing you have to know about me because my parents survived the coups in Ghana, Orchestrated by CIA, I have a particular view. My family are strong Believers and followers of Nkrumah and the fact that the CIA took him out because he was trying to make the country better something that will always stick with me. You talking about the mullahs but my dad and he don't like to talk about this but you know you get him drunk and watching some history stuff on Africa and he would talk about the friends that went missing and were never heard from again and they were not allowed to have their funeral. Now those are real people in my parents lives even though I didn't meet them as opposed to some person who has no degrees of connection to me because you was saying are being mistreated in Iran. Not to mention the fact that Iran has held up against proxy war vs Iraq and despite US intervention attempts a manage their hold their own and remain independent.

 

The IRGC and Iranian parliament IMO are opposed to a ceasefire while the reformist government and Iran's foreign ministry are in favor. The final decision is supposed to be made by Iran's Supreme Leader who doesn't appear to have made a final decision either way yet. Sources close to the IRGC claim "the lie" regarding this ceasefire will be proven within the next few hours when Iran will launch its next attack on Israel.

 

Supreme Leader could use a supreme nap

 

So, I can understand that you have your views based on your (and your families) experience, of course. That's true for all of us. Our experiences shape our world view. I didn't really understand your last two sentences but that's fine. But it sounds like you're saying that because of how the CIA acted in Ghana (apologies for my complete ignorance on this), your sympathies are with the Iranian "revolutionaries" which is hard for me to grasp - that's like saying you would support the enemies of the US based on your tainted view of this country. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but Iran and the US have been enemies for over 45 years so I can't understand having a soft spot for those who would like to see us dead.

 

I was saying Iran has survived US attempts to bring them to heal. I support that. They say Death to America but they were never going to come to America and attack. Death to American Imperialism makes more sense and is not a bad thing. I cannot get to your side of the street that says bombing Iran in an unprovoked manner by the US makes sense cause it for

 

I'd say the recent evolution of the situation has more to do with AIPAC setting up a Super PAC and sending money directly to US candidates. They spent almost as much on this past election as Elon Musk did.

Citizens United was a license to launder money from corporations and foreign powers almost directly into candidates pockets, as long as you have a reasonable definition of fungible.

 

Iran has been an enemy to the US and Israel forever, their track record on human rights is abhorrent, their use of proxies to attack and harass our ally, incessant, and yes, preaching the death of us all is dreadful. I'm surprised when anyone in this country makes excuses for Iran. I don't see the US actions here as unprovoked, and it makes perfect sense to me that they've been brought to their knees, finally.

We will simply have to disagree.

 

That was good while it lasted.....

Nope, not a false alarm, red alerts now across Northern and Southern Israel. pic.twitter.com/wULX2gPHfw

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) June 24, 2025

 

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'état (Persian: کودتای ۲۸ مرداد), was the overthrow of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953. Led by the Iranian army and supported by the United States and the United Kingdom, the coup aimed at strengthening the autocratic rule of the shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after its government refused to concede to western oil demands. It was instigated by the United States (under the name TP-AJAX Project or Operation Ajax) and the United Kingdom (under the name Operation Boot). This began a period of dissolution for Iranian democracy and society.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état

 

are you able to add some of your own thoughts here or just cut and paste from wiki? what is your point, sir?

 

so Trumps big ceasefire deal is going swimmingly.

 

Do you have a link for that? That seems implausible.

 

Is Iran doing this or Hamas?

 

It’s off. Elon spent over $290m, while AIPAC spent over $100m

 

What is emerging from reports is that Iran essentially wants to have the last say before any ceasefire. So if Israel resumes attacks after this morning's attack by Iran, it will respond again. If not, Iran will accept a ceasefire.

 

I will for him. At what point is US starting this gonna matter. Iran is bad for saying death to the USA but when you look it, who has been working more to deny IRAN autonomy over itself as a nation more than the USA. As you said, we will ha e to agree to disagree as to who is the bad guy. It all depends on when you start the clock on wrong doing.