My stupid bet, coming from a half-ignorant observer (not really in fact: it's a hypothesis that I've just listened to in a podcast)? If American soldiers set foot in Greenland, they will only have to declare: "Greenland is ours", for this to actually be the case (not under international law, of course: but who cares?). It would be an annexation of the Anschluss type: no shots would be fired, even if Danish, French, British or German soldiers were - after an improbable burst of European courage - present in Greenland. I should say: especially if the French and British were present: we do not start an open war with a country equipped with nuclear weapons. Even more so when you yourself are a nuclear power. It has been an intangible principle for over 70 years. The female expert in international relations in the podcast I was listening to even made the extreme hypothesis of European patrols crossing American patrols, both ignoring each other. Of course it's complete fiction at this point and may look completely crazy. But we are entering uncharted waters.
There is absolutely a 0 percent chance that Trump knows that the Mercator Projection is used and represents Northern Landmasses as being much larger than Southern ones.
And if the Joint Chiefs bring in a globe to prove the point, Trump (and roughly a third of this country) become flat-Earth advocates on the spot.
I think the reality is that the US can really only fight a protracted War in one place. Obviously we have special forces capability to make quick strikes and extractions, but at the end of the day with hypersonic missiles our ability to project naval power has been nerfed. If Europe decided to put their footdown with Europe the same weekend that China chose to take Taiwan and we happened to have a lot of our forces in Venezuela fighting a protracted conflict? Not too much we could do. So it has to be this piecemeal, little bit here and a little bit there to have success. It's kind of Hitler all over again. You lose by appeasement, but at the end of the day if enough people stand up the capabilities won't be there and I don't think the American public has the stomach to fight the entire world all at once.
I said in Dave’s coup thread but I will repeat here. Bradly is the head of JSOC. Bradly needs a pardon from Trump for the fisherman murders. Bradly is trapped and will follow whatever Trump orders. Bradly is a coward and as big a threat to our nation as Trump…if not more so.
This is what I think could happen. 1. Trump will order Greenland to be annexed because he doesn't understand mercator projection 2. Russia will see that NATO is dead. Not "dead" dead but actually dead. They'll annex Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania because of the "who's going to stop us?" principle. 3. China, seeing that everybody else is a) occupied and b)in no moral position to say a goddamned thing will, let's call it, "more fully integrate" Taiwan into China. 4. I think a lot of places will look around and see that the old world order has completely collapsed and been replaces by a new world order in which might makes right. As such, places all over the world are going to look at their neighbors and say, "Hmm, I think I could grab that." Turkey will grab part of Syria, Kenya will snatch part of Somalia, & co. 5. Canada and Poland need to be arming themselves to the teeth as if the apocalypse is coming because they'll be a part of Round 2.
So basically, Trump's moves are the equivalent of the assassination of the arch-duke Franz-Ferdinand, the Anschluss, and the bombing of Pearl Harbor all rolled into one.
They can't win a military conflict with the United States. They just can't. Denmark's military should evacuate Greenland, mine every square yard, drop some bacteria on the way out and "capitulate" to Trump
Greenland is a barren land A land that bears no green Where there’s ice and snow, and the whalefishes blow And the daylight’s seldom scene
Like the way Canada said OK when the FN folks said, "please stop abusing our children and killling them in your residential schools..."
We admit faults - you keep deflecting while pretending that those horrible things only happened north of the border
Sir - they happened to me and mine - so, you know And a fair portion of your burgeoning conservatives enjoy denying that they did happen
Russia barely has any strategic reserves they could devote to a new front in the Baltics. Their annual recruitment has been barely sufficient to deal with the attrition in Ukraine. That is before you even consider the NATO implications. Even if the U.S. stays out of it and not all European NATO memberstates get involved, there is zero chance Poland would not get involved should Russia invade the Baltic states. I'm not saying a Russian adventure in the Baltics states is out of the question longer term, but I would think more like 2030 or later than in the next three years. One other wrinkle is that a lot of the specialized units that would be key to an attempted incursion into the Baltics have been tossed into the Ukraine meatgrinder years ago. So it's not even just about number of troops but quality of troops. Poland already has the largest standing army in Europe and they are in the process of expanding it even further. They are going to spend another 47 billion on new procurements just in 2026. This is on top of an existing fleet of modern tanks that exceed on its own what the greater powers of Europe have combined. They will also soon have the largest arsenal of rocket artillery in Europe (which includes 500 HIMARS launchers). That means that Poland will soon have more HIMARS systems than the U.S. army (currently anyway). As a society they have also been preparing for war with Russia longer than almost anyone else, apart from maybe the Baltics and Finland. By which I mean to say, I don't think Russia would probably like to find itself in a conventional war with Poland even today. If we are talking 2030, that reality will have gotten even worse, as the Poles are committed to considerably strengthening their armed forces even further by then.
So, Greenland puts down its' marker. The PM had a public presser today, alongside the Danish PM, stating Greenland is not for sale, and chooses to stay aligned with Denmark. Over to you Trump/JD.
The head of SHAPE — Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe is also the Commander of European Command. That’s the military command that would have responsibility for prosecuting any military action against Greenland. So he could conceivably be tasked with running both sides of any military conflict over Greenland. That’s how stupid this is.
Greenland making their position crystal clear. They choose Denmark of over the US JUST IN: 🚨 🇺🇸 🇬🇱 Greenland’s Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen draws RED LINE:“If we have to choose between the United States and Denmark, we choose DENMARK.We choose NATO.We choose the Kingdom of Denmark.We choose the EU.” pic.twitter.com/QlbHp3Sr2z— ADAM (@AdameMedia) January 13, 2026
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