The inevitable war with Greenland

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  1. Jeremy Goodwin

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    It's only reasonable if you accept that there is a scenario where it is preferable that the US directly controls Greenland instead of a treaty ally.
     
  2. Potowmack

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    If the United States, Denmark, and Greenland came to some sort of voluntary mutual agreement to make Greenland a territory of the US (without any coercion or use of force), that would certainly be a good thing for the US.
     
  3. Potowmack

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    It would be preferable for the US. Obviously, it's not what Greenland or Denmark prefer.
     
  4. Yoshou

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    That "If" is doing A LOT of work.
     
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  5. Given the state of the Rule of Law in the USA that might not end well for the native Greenland people.
    How many treaties have the First Nation people signed that ended being toilet paper?
     
  6. Jeremy Goodwin

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    What part is obvious? The part where unemployment is sky high, and it constantly needs investment from Denmark to stay afloat? The almost complete lack of infrastructure, the high inflation, the per capita income lower than Russia and Alaska, the extreme conditions making it an even more hostile place to develop resources than ANWR, the place no one wants to drill, regardless of which administration is in power or what leases are available?

    Greenland is a money pit. Getting it up to Alabama level would take huge and continuing investment, and the people there aren't interested, and the companies you want to give away the resources to don't want to pay to get them out of the ground.

    The only obvious thing is that Trump wants to write TRUMPLAND on the map before he dies.
     
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  7. Wow, the promised natrium-ion battery has arrived.
    The promise of a breakthrough in the battery field has been heard more often in recent years, but this time it seems serious. The Chinese battery giant CATL is introducing a sodium-ion battery that will appear in a production car as early as this year. The first car with this new, safer battery technology will be sold in 2026 by the Chinese car brand Changan.

    The benefits, attributed to this kind of battery, of which the several times lower price compared to the current ones, means all of a sudden storing energy from solar panels is going to be a no brainer.

    It doesnot need the rare earth lithium in Greenland.
    Denmark should asap do a deal and sell half of Greenland for 100 trillion euros, not US dollars, because that lithium isnot going to be excavated anymore:D.
    And when that sinks in, offer to buy it back for 10 million.
     
  8. superdave

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    Because of a previous phase of mu career, I actually have some factual insight for you, if you’re willing to educate yourself.

    For about 2 1/2 centuries, America broke treaty after treaty after treaty. But over the last half century or so, the tribes have racked up a ton of wins by going to the courts and getting the courts to enforce the treaties.

    Your view is valid for historical analysis, but not political science or current law.
     
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  9. Yoshou

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    Ehhhhhh. This isn't actually true, right now. The cost difference between Na-Ion and Li-Ion batteries are pretty insignificant right now. Additionally, the energy density of Li-Ion batteries is currently about double that of Na-Ion. This could, of course, all change as Na-Ion batteries are still in their infancy, so cost could come down further and energy density could also go up. The big benefit of going Na-Ion is that Sodium is literally everywhere, while Lithium processing is primarily in China with a smattering in Argentina and Spain. If European and American governments want to break China's lock on batteries, Na-Ion could be the way to do it.
     
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  10. bigredfutbol

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    Fetterman referenced the Louisiana Purchase and the purchase of Alaska as precedents. Both notably ignored the wishes & interests of the indigenous inhabitants of those respective territories. The most generous interpretation is that he simply didn't think his analogy through.
     
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  11. Sufjan Guzan

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    Feb 13, 2016
    It's not about Greenland right now, it's about Greenland when livable areas of Africa, South America, India, Southeast Asia, Australia, and North America are unlivable because of climate change. Everyone thinks it's about the resources and they are right about that too, but you have to understand these Vampires (Epstein/Musk/Gates/Trump/Thiel/Ellison Class) want to live forever and they think long term. Easiest way to begin that process is to get a country with the military you control firmly in possession of it so you can begin your plans as soon as possible.
     
  12. superdave

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    This makes it sound like you think Greenland will be transformed into livability if worldwide temperatures go up 3-4 degrees Fahrenheit.

    Is that what you think? And if so, can you link to something that supports that idea? Because I have big doubts, but I’m willing to be educated.
     
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  13. roby

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    #663 roby, Feb 13, 2026
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    If the temps go up that much Greenland will be the size of Rhode Island! :whistling:

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  14. Sufjan Guzan

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  15. Potowmack

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    Where's you get that map from? And are there more like that of other countries, post-climate apocalypse.
     
  16. roby

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    AntarticGlaciers.org...if everything there melts...surfs up 20' everywhere! If Antartica goes add another 200+ feet!
     
  17. Homa

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    But wouldn't the land mass under the ice shield pop up filling the Gulf of Inuit? Scandinavia is still rising after the loss of its ice cap.

    Anyway would there be much of Rhode Island left?
     
  18. Sounders78

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    You might find this website helpful. It allows you to explore different places in the world with various climate criteria.
     
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  19. Yeah, but how much in 25,000 years.
    It's not a waterbed effect, when you jump on it it bounces back in real time.

    :D
     
  20. Homa

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    Nice, that answers my question about Rhode Island. They would only lose a bit of the coast but Boston would be mostly gone. Guess, most people from Rhode Island might take that as win.

    Large parts of the Netherlands, including Rotterdam and Amsterdam, would also be gone. Which for me, being German, might be a price I'm willing to pay. Now, if we could only find a way to drown Munich and Berlin, too...
     
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    So....who's the crowd going to cheer/boo:D
     
  22. Ceres

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    #672 Ceres, Feb 14, 2026
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    No,the many cooperate Democrats and the US MSM media advocate for the USA taking over Greenland, either by buying it or by doing a $100,000 bribery, which is obviously never going to happen.

    I mean would you say goodbye to lifelong freee healthcare, free University college education for all your relatives including more than upto $1,000 month of payment, a 52 worth of fully paid maternity leave, a 5+1 weeks and 10 days of fully paid holydays, a $200 a month daycare fee, and a very high monthly elderly retirement payment check and other social benefits that do not exist in the USA, in exchange for a one of $100,000 payment ?

    Well, l'm sure most Americans would do, because they are to poor, working 2 jobs to make ends meet and are too uneducatd to do otherwise, but Greenlanders are not .
     
  23. Ceres

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    You have not only actively been working to get me banned from this forum in the past, but you never replied to any of my personaly posts, so please do not try fake some sort of agreeing with me now., becauseu you are a cooperate Democrat, very much in the pocket of the billionaire elite.
     
  24. superdave

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    You’re lying,
     
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  25. Minnman

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    I don’t know about the others, but I refuse to believe that Trump thinks long term about much of anything.
     
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