The Gyasi Zardes thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Scotty, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let us jist say as a hater, I voted along with everyone else to start Zardes on Sunday in tutul’s poll
     
  2. RossD

    RossD Member+

    Aug 17, 2013
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I don't think this has been noted but I'm watching the replay and Gyasi was creating the pressure on the CB who made the bad pass which we intercepted which directly led to the goal.
     
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  3. Neubill

    Neubill Member

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Jan 26, 2005
    Southern Kelehfornya
    The excuse given today by Gregg Berhalter that Gyasi is in pre-season form isn't acceptable. I know that Gyasi Zardes is one of Berhalter's guys and I have a high opinion of the player, but after today's performance against Canada, it's clear that he doesn't have what's necessary to thrive at the international level.

    It's time for Gyasi to hand over the #9 jersey to Ricardo Pepí.
     
  4. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    My problem with GB is with the way he allocated opportunities to potential CFs in the player pool. It’s not Zardes’ fault that he gets so many more opportunities than others, or that the only other player to get a similar number of looks is banished for playing at a similar levels of medicority.
     
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  5. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    gyais doesnt fit in a small pitch with tight control and no space AT ALL

    this was the worst possible game for him

    how ggg looked at it as picking the striker who fit each game and came up with gyasi on a mini pitch boggles my mind

    woulda made more sense to play jesus vs canada and gyasi vs el salvador
     
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  6. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Zardes is not a false 9. A first XI with that functional midfield needed a false 9.
     
  7. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I said this early on in the game thread, but this was a World Cup level match and it presented the kind of test we needed to observe Zardes in to see if he truly brings the value worth bringing to a World Cup. What exactly did he do today that successfully fulfilled Gregg's vision for the position?
     
  8. harttbeat

    harttbeat Member

    Dec 29, 1998
    New York
    Did ggg really say that? Then why the heck did you.play all these MLS guys
     
  9. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there any level of suckitude that would keep Gregg from taking his boy Gyasi Zardes to the World Cup?

    If you're a Gregg defender and actually think Zardes isn't making his World Cup roster, speak now...
     
  10. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    Jordan Pefok must be wondering the same thing.
     
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  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  12. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    The problem with Zardes isn't that he has always sucked. It's that he's not in good form.
     
  13. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zardes: 1 shot (blocked), 0.05 xG, 0.01 xA, 0 chances created in 69 minutes

     
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Scary but this is actually better than I remember… would have guessed aerials were below 50%

     
  15. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Assuming we qualify, I don’t think Zardes will make the final roster. I’ve been supportive of Gregg, so I guess that makes me your target audience.
     
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  16. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    I don’t bet, but if I did I would definitely take that bet. I put the odds at >70%.
     
  17. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    noe of this is zardes's fault

    he shouldnt be on the roster and I wouldn't expect a player to turn down a callup like nagbe
     
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  18. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. I like Zardes as a person. Seems like a solid dude.
     
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  19. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My neighbor is a solid dude... good thing Gregg doesn't know him.
     
  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Bet Pepi gets the start against Hondo.

    If Puli gets rested we may have finally a trident up front that clicks.
     
  21. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm convinced of the fact that Zardes is not put in the lineup to score goals. He is put into the lineup to make off-ball runs, to occupy defenders, to be physical, to win some aerial duels, and to link up with other attackers. The problem is that his technical limitations can kind of get in the way of linking up with other attackers. He is not fully suited for the role Berhalter has him in when he wants us to play a possession-dominating style.

    The issue is we have a No.9 problem in the pool—no one is head and shoulders above anyone else's pedestrian ability right now.
     
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  22. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    This is true. Zardes in good form is a better option than the other forwards if they are in poor form or in pre-season.

    There is a sort of form-neutral pecking order, however. And imo Zardes should be below Pepi and Sargent on that list. He should be roughly equal with Pefok, Ferreira and Dike. And some of the others who should have been given looks at center forward but for whatever reason haven't (Weah, Hoppe, Morris).

    And of course, the obvious bears repeating. Zardes is not in good form at the moment. He is in pre-season form. And given that should not be starting a WC qualifier. Imo Pepi and Sargent (indifferent though their current form may be) should be getting the starts this window.
     
  23. Rick Sanchez

    Rick Sanchez Member

    Manchester City
    United States
    Nov 11, 2021
    Zardes- Good form? His best scoring is when a ball inadvertently bounces off his dome and goes into goal. He is without a doubt one of the most technically deficient CF's I've ever seen. Sure, he will work hard for 90+ minutes if you ask him to and he has decent pace, but he's got bricks for feet. His first touch has always been god awful and that's never changed. One of the main differences between Zardes and all the other forwards you've mentioned is they haven't had the innumerable opportunities that Zardes has had and used to prove he has no business on this team. If you can't see that by now, I don't know how to help you!
     
  24. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    I don’t see how Zardes is in better form in his offseason than any of the alternatives. Certainly if we want goals from that spot Pefok and Dike (up to the injury) were in better form. I don’t think that if you count all the non-scoring aspects of okaying CF he is in better form than Sarge. And if not playing isn’t a bar to a call up I would still like to see what Hoppe can do at CF, since that has never been tried.
     
  25. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    If they changed the rules that teams qualify and win games at the world cup dominating possession rather than scoring goals, I'm fully on board with this.

    If we don't have any strikers better than the others, I'd prefer to select the ones in season.
     

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