The Greatest Ever Sweeper?

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by comme, Jul 7, 2005.

  1. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    Who is the greatest ever sweeper?

    I know it is true of most of the positions but this is one full of truly sensational players.
     
  2. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    There can only be one winner.
     
  3. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Beckenbauer easily. I will put Scirea second and the Romanian sweeper in the 1990s, Miodrag Belodedici third.
     
  4. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Why do you have Bob Moore as a sweeper? English football
    didn't use a sweeper till after his time . . . He was called
    a center-half I believe.

    By the way it's heartbreaking that Beckenbauer has to win
    this poll--which he does, of course. At least let Baresi and
    Moore have a go at CB in the other poll, if we're all going
    to agree the best sweeper was Beckenbauer . . .
     
  5. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    how can Rijkard not make it into either CB or Sweeper poll? That's appalling.
     
  6. silver bullet

    silver bullet Member

    May 11, 2004
    I expect he'll show up in the poll for the defensive midfielder spot.
     
  7. Bertje

    Bertje New Member

    Nov 10, 2004
    Leiden
    He was a true man-marker so it would have to be the centreback poll. But if he would have been in there he surely would have won. I guess Comme has him as a defensive midfielder. I'd rather have a central defense of Baresi and Rijkaard and have Beckenbauer as a defensive midfielder.
     
  8. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I see your point, but really... Baresi, Rijjaard and Franz playing together would never be a traditional set up... in all likelyhood, any team with 2 of those 3 would see the light and not play a defensivemidfielder :D . Or, none of the 3 would have instructions, they'd just be allowed to do their thing.
     
  9. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    Rijkaard will be in the d-mid poll.

    Moore may not have played sweeper, but I use the word "sweeper" figuratively to differentiate between them and a more normal centre-half.

    I had to have two polls to give as many options as I wanted.
     
  10. Roffadam

    Roffadam Red Card

    Jun 21, 2005
    Rotterdam, NLD
    ive a better idea Comme..why dont you open a poll on what kind of poll you should open next?
     
  11. Roffadam

    Roffadam Red Card

    Jun 21, 2005
    Rotterdam, NLD
    or better yet, first make a poll on if you should make a poll on which poll you should open next..

    yeah that would be so interesting
     
  12. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    If you don't like the polls, either go to another forum or better yet, simply scroll down the page to other threads. Given that I have handily named the polls you can decide what you want to read and what you don't. Now do us all a favour.
     
  13. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The same would be true of Passarella. There are a handful of central defenders who were strong leaders, you could say the soul of their team, and were not confined to a traditional position. They were intelligent and verstile enough to do whatever it took to win, and to inspire their teammates to do what it took to win. To be fair, it is almost necesary to judge them in a separate category from the very best traditional sweepers, (like for example Scirea.)

    If you're making an all-star team, I'd think you want one of these players in your team, rather than a traditional sweeper. And of the very few great ones which make it into this category, Beckembauer is the best.
     
  14. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Beckenbauer gets my vote, but as has been mentioned I would prefer him in midfield. Ocwirk, Passarella and Moore come in close behind.
     
  15. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Talking of traditional sweepers, Willi Schulz of West Germany springs to mind. He took part in three World Cups (1962-1970) and was arguably the best sweeper in the 1966 World Cup, plus he kept Beckenbauer from playing sweeper for Germany throughout the 1960s. No small feat.
     
  16. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This is a no brainer...der Kaiser...easily.

    Even though he played midfield a lot he really revolutionized the sweeper position and that role for generations to come.
     
  17. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Good results so far.
     
  18. Xeneize12

    Xeneize12 New Member

    Jan 28, 2005
    La Palma, CA
    FYI: I know who you really mean...but Passarella's nickname is also "Kaiser"
     
  19. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    Well its an overwhelming victory for Beckenbauer.

    He is the stand out player, but most of the candidates were superb players.
     

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