I suppose you've all seen FourFourTwo's ranking of the greatest managers ( https://www.givemesport.com/1566603-fourfourtwo-have-ranked-the-100-greatest-managers-of-alltime ) featuring Roy Hodgson, but not Meisl, Hidalgo, Sebes & Co. It would be nice no see your preferences. Meanwhile, here's my Top 50: 1 Michels 2 Ferguson 3 Guardiola 4 Sacchi 5 Cruyff 6 Happel 7 Meisl 8 Lobanovsky 9 Clough 10 Herrera 11 Mourinho 12 Shankly 13 Sebes 14 Trapattoni 15 Busby 16 Lippi 17 Ancelotti 18 Muñoz 19 Paisley 20 Klopp 21 T. Santana 22 Rocco 23 Guttmann 24 Pozzo 25 Capello 26 Van Gaal 27 Hitzfeld 28 Del Bosque 29 Chapman 30 Heynckes 31 Wenger 32 J. Stein 33 Zidane 34 Zagallo 35 Lattek 36 Maslov 37 Benítez 38 Rehhagel 39 Hiddink 40 Scolari 41 Simeone 42 Robson 43 Liedholm 44 Dalglish 45 Aragonés 46 Schön 47 Weisz 48 Czeizler 49 Beckenbauer 50 Eriksson
1) There is already a thread for this 2) Sacchi should never be above Cruijff; not in a million years.
It's on the very same page, and it has the France Football version of a year ago in as well: https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/t...whats-your-top-25.630523/page-8#post-38657144
1786872331698077929 is not a valid tweet id https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/longest-football-unbeaten-home-run-by-a-manager/ The greatest managerial achievement bar non IMO This is impossible to repeat
From late 2015 onwards Mourinho has proved he is incapable of adapting his approach in an evolving environment. What do we make of that? It is not like managers can have their "prime" in the same way as players do. I think longevity is much more important factor for managers.
I'm not saying Ten Hag was about to do the same, or that I was anticipating it soon if he had stayed, but funny maybe to think about how Manchester United did in 1988/89 and 1989/90 (though winning the FC Cup in the latter one), and even 1990/91 to an extent (though winning the Cup Winners Cup)! On the other hand, overall, maybe there is more of a parallel to Ron Atkinson with Ten Hag (the previous manager before Alex Ferguson took over during 1986/87), or Atkinson even did a bit better results/trophies wise if anything (arguably though it was easier to do it when only Liverpool were consistently ahead of them and had more prestige and/or possibly buying power/draw for new signings, albeit United quite often had good results in games against them actually, as opposed to recently with established and rich top-end Premier League clubs Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal....) List of Manchester United F.C. managers - Wikipedia List of Manchester United F.C. seasons - Wikipedia (1980/81 - before Atkinson started) 42 15 18 9 51 36 48 8th R4 R2 UEFA Cup – R1 Joe Jordan 15 1981–82 Div 1 42 22 12 8 59 29 78 3rd R3 R2 Frank Stapleton 13 1982–83 Div 1 42 19 13 10 56 38 70 3rd Winners Runners-up UEFA Cup – R1 Frank Stapleton 19 1983–84 Div 1 42 20 14 8 71 41 74 4th R3 R4 Winners Cup Winners' Cup – SF Frank Stapleton 19 1984–85 Div 1 42 22 10 10 77 47 76 4th Winners R3 UEFA Cup – QF Mark Hughes 24 1985–86 Div 1 42 22 10 10 70 36 76 4th R5 R4 Runners-up Ban on English teams Mark Hughes 18 1986–87 Div 1 42 14 14 14 52 45 56 11th R4 R3 Peter Davenport 16 1987–88 Div 1 40 23 12 5 71 38 81 2nd R5 R5 Brian McClair 31 1988–89 Div 1 38 13 12 13 45 35 51 11th R6 R3 Mark Hughes Brian McClair 16 1989–90 Div 1 38 13 9 16 46 47 48 13th Winners R3 Mark Hughes 15 1990–91 Div 1 38 16 12 10 58 45 59[v] 6th R5 Runners-up Shared[r] Cup Winners' Cup – Winners Mark Hughes Brian McClair 21 1991–92 Div 1 42 21 15 6 63 33 78 2nd R4 Winners Cup Winners' Cup – R2 Super Cup – Winners Brian McClair 24 (If the free-kick was given for a nudge/push by Wilson, number 14, at the end, I think maybe it's a fair call to be honest though)
Back then, ManU was struggling and didn't have the same level of investment they have today. Plus, the fans who lived through that era could see the direction SAF was taking the team, but the trophies weren't coming. So, he made some big changes and completely revolutionized the club. Ten Hag, on the other hand, started with nothing; it was a barren wasteland. Fans didn't see any improvements, especially considering he built the team from scratch and had significant investment.
I think, relatively (not in real terms) United's spending back then was comparably significant to of late, and in excess of most of their domestic competitors at the time (buying back Mark Hughes, buying Gary Pallister, buying Neil Webb, buying Paul Ince etc for millions of pounds). There is reference to some fan discontent from the end of 1989 calendar year here:
why you do not choose south american coaches? We never had great coaches here??? I read these threads and i never read a name from africa, south america....only europeans Colombia had maturana and gabriel ochoa uribe Uruguai had hugo bagnulo, luis cubillla and oscar tabarez Argentina zubeldia , pizutti, cesarini, menotti, jorge valdano Peru Marcos calderon medrano and etc etc etc We had great coach names here in south america too
for example in spain you always mention guardiola and cruyff Ok , they build a legacy not only with titles but the way they change and think the game Im a big fan of this guy His work on tenerife, real madrid and valencia was great. Hes a great "snake charmer" as diego lugano used to said The way he think football is the same line as sacchi, menotti, cruyff, michels and maturana