Bujsaim = UAE Dougal = Scotland Matsumura = Japan Sun = China Code: 5/1/1999 Chicago Fire 3 - 2 D.C. United Stuart DOUGAL / Roger ITAYA / Rob FEREDAY / ??? YELLOW: C. Talley, D. Gutierrez, L. Kubik, J. Moore, C.J. Brown, R. Kosecki, G. Aunger, A.J. Wood RED: B. Kamler, L. Kubik (2CT), C. Talley (2CT)
4th for that game was Ricardo Salazar. 5th official (MLS ref on hand in case game went to MLS style shootout) was Grady
I found the error. For some reason the summary on the MLS website didn't list any of the stats for the 9/18/99 Colorado-LA match. I had to go find an archive of the Rapids website to dig up the cards. There were indeed 7 yellows shown in that match. Here are the fixed stats for 1999: Code: REGULAR SEASON [b]Referee Matches Yellow Y/Game Reds R/Game[/b] Barnes, Andrew 7 10 1.43 1 0.14 Bujsaim, Ali Mohamed 4 14 3.50 1 0.25 Corrie, Gerry 4 12 3.00 1 0.25 Covaciu-Woods, Ted 6 25 4.17 2 0.33 Dougal, Stuart 3 23 7.67 3 1.00 Giordano, Alberto 3 8 2.67 0 0.00 Grady, Rich 9 45 5.00 6 0.67 Hall, Brian 15 46 3.07 3 0.20 Heron, Richard 7 14 2.00 2 0.29 Hunt, Sandra 7 26 3.71 0 0.00 Kennedy, Michael 6 20 3.33 2 0.33 Kenny, Noel 14 42 3.00 6 0.43 Lay, Nancy 4 8 2.00 0 0.00 Matsumura, Kazuhiko 4 11 2.75 0 0.00 Perry, Todd 1 4 4.00 0 0.00 Prus, Alex 7 20 2.86 4 0.57 Quisenberry, Kermit 2 6 3.00 0 0.00 Rodhas, Ruben 3 5 1.67 1 0.33 Rutty, Reggie 5 16 3.20 3 0.60 Saheli, Ali 10 42 4.20 2 0.20 Sanchez, Francisco 1 3 3.00 0 0.00 Seitz, Kari 1 2 2.00 0 0.00 Sheker, Robert 6 13 2.17 2 0.33 Stott, Kevin 13 30 2.31 3 0.23 Sun Baojie 4 25 6.25 0 0.00 Tamberino, Paul 14 38 2.71 2 0.14 Terry, Kevin 8 24 3.00 1 0.13 Valenzuela, Ricardo 10 38 3.80 5 0.50 Weyland, Tim 7 22 3.14 3 0.43 Yonan, Marcel 7 17 2.43 1 0.14 [b]ALL REFEREES 192 609 3.17 54 0.28[/b] Code: PLAYOFFS [b]Referee Matches Yellow Y/Game Reds R/Game[/b] Barnes, Andrew 1 3 3.00 0 0.00 Grady, Rich 1 5 5.00 0 0.00 Hall, Brian 2 13 6.50 0 0.00 Kenny, Noel 1 4 4.00 0 0.00 Saheli, Ali 1 5 5.00 0 0.00 Stott, Kevin 2 13 6.50 0 0.00 Tamberino, Paul 1 2 2.00 0 0.00 Valenzuela, Ricardo 3 12 4.00 2 0.67 Weyland, Tim 3 11 3.67 0 0.00 Yonan, Marcel 1 4 4.00 1 1.00 [b]ALL REFEREES 16 72 4.50 3 0.19[/b] Code: OVERALL [b]Referee Matches Yellow Y/Game Reds R/Game[/b] Barnes, Andrew 8 13 1.63 1 0.13 Bujsaim, Ali Mohamed 4 14 3.50 1 0.25 Corrie, Gerry 4 12 3.00 1 0.25 Covaciu-Woods, Ted 6 25 4.17 2 0.33 Dougal, Stuart 3 23 7.67 3 1.00 Giordano, Alberto 3 8 2.67 0 0.00 Grady, Rich 10 50 5.00 6 0.60 Hall, Brian 17 59 3.47 3 0.18 Heron, Richard 7 14 2.00 2 0.29 Hunt, Sandra 7 26 3.71 0 0.00 Kennedy, Michael 6 20 3.33 2 0.33 Kenny, Noel 15 46 3.07 6 0.40 Lay, Nancy 4 8 2.00 0 0.00 Matsumura, Kazuhiko 4 11 2.75 0 0.00 Perry, Todd 1 4 4.00 0 0.00 Prus, Alex 7 20 2.86 4 0.57 Quisenberry, Kermit 2 6 3.00 0 0.00 Rodhas, Ruben 3 5 1.67 1 0.33 Rutty, Reggie 5 16 3.20 3 0.60 Saheli, Ali 11 47 4.27 2 0.18 Sanchez, Francisco 1 3 3.00 0 0.00 Seitz, Kari 1 2 2.00 0 0.00 Sheker, Robert 6 13 2.17 2 0.33 Stott, Kevin 15 43 2.87 3 0.20 Sun Baojie 4 25 6.25 0 0.00 Tamberino, Paul 15 40 2.67 2 0.13 Terry, Kevin 8 24 3.00 1 0.13 Valenzuela, Ricardo 13 50 3.85 7 0.54 Weyland, Tim 10 33 3.30 3 0.30 Yonan, Marcel 8 21 2.63 2 0.25 [b]ALL REFEREES 208 681 3.27 57 0.27[/b]
Any one else find it interesting that all of the female referees combined in this list did not give a single red card in the entire season?
2000: Code: REGULAR SEASON [b]Referee Matches Yellow Y/Game Reds R/Game[/b] Barnes, Andrew 11 31 2.82 1 0.09 Corrie, Gerry 12 41 3.42 1 0.08 Covaciu-Woods, Tim 6 23 3.83 2 0.33 Grady, Rich 8 44 5.50 4 0.50 Hall, Brian 12 63 5.25 6 0.50 Heron, Richard 6 15 2.50 0 0.00 Hugo, Brett 3 10 3.33 0 0.00 Hunt, Sandra 2 9 4.50 3 1.50 Kennedy, Michael 6 25 4.17 0 0.00 Kenny, Noel 15 61 4.07 10 0.67 Kim Tae Young 3 5 1.67 1 0.33 Prus, Alex 14 51 3.64 1 0.07 Rutty, Reggie 4 10 2.50 2 0.50 Saheli, Ali 8 44 5.50 2 0.25 Stott, Kevin 13 57 4.38 1 0.08 Tamberino, Paul 16 46 2.88 4 0.25 Terry, Kevin 11 34 3.09 6 0.55 Tsapos, Misail 2 12 6.00 2 1.00 Valenzuela, Ricardo 11 52 4.73 6 0.55 Vaughn, Terry 2 8 4.00 0 0.00 Vega, Sergio 2 10 5.00 0 0.00 Weyland, Tim 11 39 3.55 1 0.09 Yonan, Marcel 14 38 2.71 1 0.07 [b]ALL REFEREES 192 728 3.79 54 0.28[/b] Code: PLAYOFFS [b]Referee Matches Yellow Y/Game Reds R/Game[/b] Grady, Rich 1 6 6.00 1 1.00 Hall, Brian 2 14 7.00 1 0.50 Kenny, Noel 1 4 4.00 0 0.00 Prus, Alex 1 3 3.00 0 0.00 Stott, Kevin 1 5 5.00 0 0.00 Tamberino, Paul 3 10 3.33 1 0.33 Terry, Kevin 3 8 2.67 0 0.00 Valenzuela, Ricardo 2 9 4.50 0 0.00 Weyland, Tim 2 12 6.00 0 0.00 Yonan, Marcel 1 4 4.00 0 0.00 [b]ALL REFEREES 17 75 4.41 3 0.18[/b] Code: OVERALL [b]Referee Matches Yellow Y/Game Reds R/Game[/b] Barnes, Andrew 11 31 2.82 1 0.09 Corrie, Gerry 12 41 3.42 1 0.08 Covaciu-Woods, Tim 6 23 3.83 2 0.33 Grady, Rich 9 50 5.56 5 0.56 Hall, Brian 14 77 5.50 7 0.50 Heron, Richard 6 15 2.50 0 0.00 Hugo, Brett 3 10 3.33 0 0.00 Hunt, Sandra 2 9 4.50 3 1.50 Kennedy, Michael 6 25 4.17 0 0.00 Kenny, Noel 16 65 4.06 10 0.63 Kim Tae Young 3 5 1.67 1 0.33 Prus, Alex 15 54 3.60 1 0.07 Rutty, Reggie 4 10 2.50 2 0.50 Saheli, Ali 8 44 5.50 2 0.25 Stott, Kevin 14 62 4.43 1 0.07 Tamberino, Paul 19 56 2.95 5 0.26 Terry, Kevin 14 42 3.00 6 0.43 Tsapos, Misail 2 12 6.00 2 1.00 Valenzuela, Ricardo 13 61 4.69 6 0.46 Vaughn, Terry 2 8 4.00 0 0.00 Vega, Sergio 2 10 5.00 0 0.00 Weyland, Tim 13 51 3.92 1 0.08 Yonan, Marcel 15 42 2.80 1 0.07 [b]ALL REFEREES 209 803 3.84 57 0.27[/b]
I was hoping to get the 2001 stats up tonight because they're basically hilarious, but I'm having difficulty confirming the accuracy. To give you an idea of what I'm working with, I have the all-time MLS referee register, excerpted from the 2009 MLS Fact and Record Book. In other words, I have the OFFICIAL stats for every referee through the 2008 season. The problem, of course, is that I know it's not completely accurate. That's why I decided to start this project in the first place; the MLS statistics are bunk. What's killing me is that the league apparently couldn't even post accurate stats in the damned box scores over the years. In 2001, for example, what I had collected from the main MLS website for one referee showed 12 less yellows than he was credited for in the record book. I tracked it down to one particular game that according to the MLS website had no cards shown. I decided to double check by looking at an archive of one of the team websites. The box score on the team website showed TEN yellows in that game. Still leaves me off by two from the official numbers, but at least it's close enough now to not make a huge difference in terms of averages. It's just shocking how poorly run the MLS website has been over the years.
Over the years? It still is. Their article yesterday of thee round-up of international action for MLS players said it was the complete list. Immediately in the comments 4-5 players were pointed out as missing (including 1 by me, Steward Ceus). If they can't even track one of their own players starting in a World Cup Qualifier for MLS's confederation...
Oh yes. I've found so many errors. Luckily you can trust the FARB though. Although, I think they actually missed one of the reds to Branco in 1997. BTW, I forget if I've ever discussed this stuff with you before, but I have a list of every single red card excluding all the ones for coaches (which I had to go through and figure out).
Well, I've decided that there's not much I can do to figure out if the FARB or the website is correct on a few things so I'm going to go ahead and post the stats I've got and see if anyone can help. Code: REGULAR SEASON [b]Referee Matches Yellow Y/Game Reds R/Game[/b] Barnes, Andrew 2 3 1.50 0 0.00 Corrie, Gerry 11 42 3.82 4 0.36 Grady, Rich 7 35 5.00 3 0.43 Hall, Brian 8 43 5.38 2 0.25 Heron, Richard 6 15 2.50 1 0.17 Kennedy, Michael 7 24 3.43 1 0.14 Kenny, Noel 13 49 3.77 6 0.46 Kokolski, Peter 6 19 3.17 2 0.33 Prus, Alex 14 57 4.07 0 0.00 Rutty, Reggie 5 13 2.60 0 0.00 Salazar, Ricardo 5 14 2.80 2 0.40 Sill, Roger 3 10 3.33 1 0.33 Simmons, Erich 1 5 5.00 0 0.00 St. Silva, Gus 6 28 4.67 3 0.50 Stott, Kevin 10 37 3.70 4 0.40 Tamberino, Paul 11 31 2.82 2 0.18 Terry, Kevin 13 45 3.46 7 0.54 Valenzuela, Ricardo 8 45 5.63 0 0.00 Vaughn, Terry 8 33 4.13 4 0.50 Vega, Sergio 5 20 4.00 0 0.00 Weyland, Tim 7 34 4.86 3 0.43 Yonan, Marcel 2 8 4.00 0 0.00 [b]ALL REFEREES 158 610 3.86 45 0.28[/b] Code: PLAYOFFS [b]Referee Matches Yellow Y/Game Reds R/Game[/b] Corrie, Gerry 2 10 5.00 0 0.00 Kenny, Noel 1 2 2.00 1 1.00 Prus, Alex 2 9 4.50 2 1.00 Salazar, Ricardo 1 2 2.00 0 0.00 St. Silva, Gus 1 10 10.00 1 1.00 Stott, Kevin 4 17 4.25 1 0.25 Tamberino, Paul 2 6 3.00 2 1.00 Terry, Kevin 2 7 3.50 1 0.50 Valenzuela, Ricardo 1 5 5.00 3 3.00 Vaughn, Terry 1 4 4.00 2 2.00 Weyland, Tim 1 9 9.00 1 1.00 [b]ALL REFEREES 18 81 4.50 14 0.78[/b] Code: OVERALL [b]Referee Matches Yellow Y/Game Reds R/Game[/b] Barnes, Andrew 2 3 1.50 0 0.00 Corrie, Gerry 13 52 4.00 4 0.31 Grady, Rich 7 35 5.00 3 0.43 Hall, Brian 8 43 5.38 2 0.25 Heron, Richard 6 15 2.50 1 0.17 Kennedy, Michael 7 24 3.43 1 0.14 Kenny, Noel 14 51 3.64 7 0.50 Kokolski, Peter 6 19 3.17 2 0.33 Prus, Alex 16 66 4.13 2 0.13 Rutty, Reggie 5 13 2.60 0 0.00 Salazar, Ricardo 6 16 2.67 2 0.33 Sill, Roger 3 10 3.33 1 0.33 Simmons, Erich 1 5 5.00 0 0.00 St. Silva, Gus 7 38 5.43 4 0.57 Stott, Kevin 14 54 3.86 5 0.36 Tamberino, Paul 13 37 2.85 4 0.31 Terry, Kevin 15 52 3.47 8 0.53 Valenzuela, Ricardo 9 50 5.56 3 0.33 Vaughn, Terry 9 37 4.11 6 0.67 Vega, Sergio 5 20 4.00 0 0.00 Weyland, Tim 8 43 5.38 4 0.50 Yonan, Marcel 2 8 4.00 0 0.00 [b]ALL REFEREES 176 691 3.93 59 0.34[/b] Here are the issues I've discovered: Based on the online summaries, Richard Heron showed 15 yellows in 6 matches. The FARB says 22 in 6 matches. The only truly suspicious match is 4/21 Columbus vs KC. Everything I've found lists no cautions or send offs for that match. Meanwhile, the websites have 11 matches for Gerry Corrie (42 yellows) and 13 matches for Noel Kenny (49 yellows). The FARB says 10 matches for Corrie (38 yellows) and 14 matches for Kenny (53 yellows). The only match that has Corrie listed as referee and showing exactly 4 yellows and 0 reds is 7/17 New England vs LA. However, I can find no evidence online that Kenny worked that match and not Corrie.
Here's 2002: Code: REGULAR SEASON [b]Referee Matches Yellow Y/Game Reds R/Game[/b] Anno, Jasen 2 8 4.00 0 0.00 Bazakos, Elias 4 13 3.25 1 0.25 Corrie, Gerry 10 37 3.70 1 0.10 Grady, Rich 8 38 4.75 4 0.50 Hall, Brian 2 6 3.00 2 1.00 Heron, Richard 5 20 4.00 3 0.60 Johnson, Jesse 2 9 4.50 1 0.50 Kennedy, Michael 8 46 5.75 2 0.25 Kenny, Noel 6 27 4.50 4 0.67 Kokolski, Peter 3 10 3.33 2 0.67 Marrufo, Jair 8 25 3.13 2 0.25 Prus, Alex 10 35 3.50 1 0.10 Rutty, Reggie 2 4 2.00 1 0.50 Saheli, Ali 5 19 3.80 0 0.00 Salazar, Ricardo 9 34 3.78 2 0.22 Simmons, Erich 5 23 4.60 3 0.60 St. Silva, Gus 11 50 4.55 2 0.18 Stott, Kevin 13 56 4.31 6 0.46 Terry, Kevin 11 30 2.73 1 0.09 Valenzuela, Ricardo 8 40 5.00 3 0.38 Vaughn, Terry 8 27 3.38 3 0.38 [b]ALL REFEREES 140 557 3.98 44 0.31[/b] Possible errors: FARB lists 39 yellows for Prus and 42 yellows for Salazar. Code: PLAYOFFS [b]Referee Matches Yellow Y/Game Reds R/Game[/b] Corrie, Gerry 1 4 4.00 1 1.00 Grady, Rich 1 4 4.00 0 0.00 Hall, Brian 1 7 7.00 1 1.00 Heron, Richard 1 3 3.00 0 0.00 Kennedy, Michael 1 6 6.00 0 0.00 Marrufo, Jair 1 2 2.00 0 0.00 Prus, Alex 2 9 4.50 0 0.00 Salazar, Ricardo 1 3 3.00 0 0.00 Stott, Kevin 2 6 3.00 0 0.00 Terry, Kevin 4 12 3.00 1 0.25 Valenzuela, Ricardo 1 8 8.00 1 1.00 Vaughn, Terry 1 5 5.00 0 0.00 [b]ALL REFEREES 17 69 4.06 4 0.24[/b] Code: OVERALL [b]Referee Matches Yellow Y/Game Reds R/Game[/b] Anno, Jasen 2 8 4.00 0 0.00 Bazakos, Elias 4 13 3.25 1 0.25 Corrie, Gerry 11 41 3.73 2 0.18 Grady, Rich 9 42 4.67 4 0.44 Hall, Brian 3 13 4.33 3 1.00 Heron, Richard 6 23 3.83 3 0.50 Johnson, Jesse 2 9 4.50 1 0.50 Kennedy, Michael 9 52 5.78 2 0.22 Kenny, Noel 6 27 4.50 4 0.67 Kokolski, Peter 3 10 3.33 2 0.67 Marrufo, Jair 9 27 3.00 2 0.22 Prus, Alex 12 44 3.67 1 0.08 Rutty, Reggie 2 4 2.00 1 0.50 Saheli, Ali 5 19 3.80 0 0.00 Salazar, Ricardo 10 37 3.70 2 0.20 Simmons, Erich 5 23 4.60 3 0.60 St. Silva, Gus 11 50 4.55 2 0.18 Stott, Kevin 15 62 4.13 6 0.40 Terry, Kevin 15 42 2.80 2 0.13 Valenzuela, Ricardo 9 48 5.33 4 0.44 Vaughn, Terry 9 32 3.56 3 0.33 [b]ALL REFEREES 157 626 3.99 48 0.31[/b]
Hey you're famous...kinda. http://kicking-back.blogspot.com/2011/10/great-mls-referee-database-thread.html
So, here's a list of the discrepancies in the number of yellow cards from this thread: FARB vs your data: Reg. Season 1998 - 619 vs 608 1999 - 614 vs 609 2000 - 736 vs 728 2001 - 626 vs 610 2002 - 572 vs 557 Playoffs 1996 - 66 vs 65 1998 - 58 vs 57 1999 - 69 vs 72 2000 - 77 vs 75 2001 - 85 vs 81
Some of those are going to be second yellow cards. The stats have not been consistent on how those are tallied over the years.
What is the proper way to tally second cautions? I'm pretty sure that you count the second caution in the total amount of cautions. I know in some leagues, that the second yellow disappears and turns into a red and is not counted in total amount of cautions. It's really frustrating in my local amateur league where on the match report the second caution is disregarded and just put up under sendoffs so the total caution stat is skewed.
As a referee, you report EVERY card shown so in your report it's two yellows (each for some cautionable offense) plus one red for receiving a second caution in the same match. In terms of a player's stats? That's up to the league. Because MLS has not been consistent over the years in either their stat-keeping or their match reports, I went with the option not to count the second yellow/red as separate cards because it was easier with the data available.
Currently MLS does not count second yellows towards suspension for accumulation of yellows, so your choice seems consistent with that.
Interesting infographic that relates to this thread a lot: http://www.mlssoccer.com/referee/news/article/2011/10/13/referee-week-official-numbers-infographic 1) The yearly average foul count is really something to watch. Huge spike in 2000 then a near-steady decline. 2) Valenzuela at most fouls per game doesn't surprise me. I know Grady and Toledo are both known for throwing around a lot of cards, but it always felt like Valenzuela just called more in general. 3) I could have sworn Brian Hall had a 14- or 16-card game before WC02. So surprised to see Salazar given that honor. 4) Anyone know which game was Kenny's 57-foul match? If it wasn't a playoff match with extra time, that must have been something. Given substitutions and ceremonial restarts and the like, that probably ends up being well over 1-foul-per-minute when compared to dynamic play.
Also, I'd like to know when this supposed 14 card game occurred because I sure as hell can't find it.
Do we have reason to believe the abrupt change in 2000 was real? I wonder whether they improved their method for counting fouls that year. From what I hear, things like fouls and shots (and catch/punch) used to be tallied by an intern sitting in the stands with a clipboard.
Maybe that was in a different competition? In the 2008 SuperLiga, there was a 14-card game between the Revs and Atlante, but I looked up the ref for that one, and it was Carlos Batres, not Salazar.
2000-03 have more fouls per game because of OT. The per game numbers are pretty consistent until the drop in 2008.
From 1999 to 2000, there was a 17% increase in fouls per game. That's too big to be explained by a ten-minute OT period, especially since most games didn't go to OT at all.