The Global Warming Thread

After reading many leopard-eating-faces stories since 2016, it dawned on me that a lot of people think that they're untouchable until the fan actually fling shit to their faces

 

From the industry POV, I think there will be some piecemeal IRA adjustments.

Some areas are more likely to get hit extremely hard/scrapped altogether (offshore wind). Wholesale IRA repeal will be more difficult. Most of the solar and wind deployment is in heavily GOP house districts hungry for employment and property tax revenue. Those reps have really defended the tax credit programs. Cornyn for example is a much bigger proponent of renewables than people realize.

 

mass adoption? Yeah. But solar is such a small slice of daytime energy production that is not a serious pressure yet. Perhaps locally in some areas (CA and maybe TX). What I have seen in the industry is that the cost of BESS is way, way down and we are seeing a lot of utility scale systems with that component. 4-5 years ago, it was the rare exception. Today they’re probably on 50% of the new 150 MWdc+ systems and a they’re easy adds for the other 50%.

 

California with. 48 gigawatts and Texas with 32 gigawatts are the states with the highest production. That implies the choice to go with solar is independent of which political party dominates.

 

Correct. NC, IN, and a fairly GOP belt from NE Arkansas through southern TN and northern MS, AL and GA are seeing a lot of emerging deployment these days as well. And keep in mind Musk is big on utility scale storage systems in his own business portfolio. I think the market is baking in the prospect that Trump is erratic with those stock price hits, but given the size of the declines, they’re thinking it’s far more likely than not that he can’t really touch those outside of maybe reducing the credit a bit or giving additional credits/R&D for things that would benefit gas like carbon recapture.

useful map of most projects:

https://seia.org/research-resources/major-solar-projects-list/

 

Sadly, it will be the people in a few centuries that feel it the worst.

 

There will still be people in a few centuries?

(saying that half-jokingly, but only half)

 

I have no idea what it will look like.

Despite current events, Humans are very intelligent and adaptable. Barring a catastrophic asteriod impact, I'm pretty certain that humans will find a way to persevere. It might get real ugly and regress back centuries in quality of living.

 

Also, the Earth is very robust. So, yeah, I agree. I never saw climate change as an existential threat (as in capable of making humans extinct).

 

I'll be dead so there's that.

 

Some time ago I saw a Dutch program about native Americans in the Americas. They covered how they do in different coutries, going from Canada south. So in one of the episodes they covered the subjects of tribes being seperated from their people, because of the Mex/USA border.
One of those tribes lived in very harsh conditions, given the climate etc. of their territories. An American border guard or how they are called in those Indian territories was baffled that these tribe people even could live there (was a nice dude by the way).

When things go shitty, those who are already used to survive under such circumstances are also those who will take the place of the people without the knowledge how to.

 

Just to visualize a post global warming USA, imagine the standard of living if 330 million people lived here.

 

The earth will be fine until it is swallowed up by the sun in about 5 billion years. It will be unfit for life in about a billion, when the sun will boil our oceans.

SO….. I’d rather we kept this place nice for human life for the “brief” few hundreds-of-millions of years we potentially have.

edit: Also, heating the earth 5C is going to completely change the Earth's suitability for humans living in it in several places. It is very possible that we change the earth so much and disrupt our way of life so drastically, that we live as though we were around the beginning of the Common Era.

 

To quote the great philosopher George Carlin: “The earth isn’t going anywhere; we are.”

 

I see a great future for humanity!!!

 

Is this some joke that only you and the 5 other people who watched Waterworld will get?

 

Oh, don't deny it! It's a terrible movie, but we've all seen it.

 

Nope.

 

There was a time when it would run almost nonstop on cable TV, so guilty as charged.

Well, we are probably headed to some sort of dark future, so I feel like referencing post apocalyptic movies, and Wet Max is the one that contemplated a flooded planet, so there you go.

 

You're one of those 'glass half full' kinda guys I see.

 

Nope, I hardly watch any movie.
I know about them by reading @Belgian guy 's comments on them.

 

Any explanation where the water came from, apart from the melted poles?

 

Same place as when Noah's Flood happened

 

As the seas rise resulting in less inhabitable land thus able to support fewer people it behooves us all to recycle religiously. I'm behoofed.