The Global Warming Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by NickyViola, Nov 30, 2009.

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  1. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

    Dec 11, 2000
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    My climber friend just returned from the western NC area last night. She finally realized that half of the emergency responders she was dealing with, were in fact, FEMA. Maybe it was the Army helicopters with pallets of supplies that tipped her off.

    I am seeing a lot of people on social media posting that "something weird is going on" because they are being diverted to other areas. The truth is people are getting in the way. People with good intentions, but going in with chainsaws and ATVs when people actually need diapers and dry socks. People who are being diverted because the road is closed and dangerous. Or power lines are down. FEMA and the National Guard don't need to rescue people who go down the wrong road and get stuck, needing to be rescued.

    The better half of my brain thinks that the MAGA Facebook people I keep tabs on don't understand how the order of operations go or that random donations of food, water, or other goods are better handled by voluntary agencies.

    But we all know that is a lie. How are these fcuksticks making it about their ego instead of the issue at hand.
     
  2. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    Indeed. And like cult members they will 100% buy the lies about Biden/Harris keeping aid away, FEMA becoming some sort of Gestapo, etc even when they see with their own eyes that this isn't the case.
     
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  3. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not so sure about the MAGA lie. I can across a few legit sources saying that volunteers were being requested. It was vague, but it was coming from news sources I actually pay attention to as opposed to places like Fox.
     
  4. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    Volunteers to do what the locals need, not what the volunteers need.
     
  5. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed.

    But my point was that the messages were vague. For me, this was something like 20 years ago, but I flew in to visit my uncle the day after an EF3 hit about 50 miles north of where he lived. He asked if I wanted to join him, and it was a definite. What he did was load up his chainsaw, a bunch of rope, gloves, and other stuff, and stopped at the gas station to fill up a couple of containers of gas (one which was donated) and we drove up. It was a relatively small operation, but there were still a lot of places that were not covered. The local emergency management team was there and they had everything set up, but still, people were just showing up with their equipment. I can only imagine how it would be for something the size of Helene, with roads and bridges washed out, and rivers that changed course. Well meaning people can be stupid in an effort to help.
     
  6. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    I was in Houston during Harvey and saw excellent, coordinated volunteer response. It's crazy that all these years later it could be so disorganized. I get that it is far more rural but that can be overcome with a little elbow grease ahead of time.
     
  7. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    The damage to North Carolina was not well forecast. Plus, they have no previous experience, whereas Houston knows it is going to be affected by Hurricanes with some regularity.
     
  8. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

    Dec 11, 2000
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Exactly. These social media posters are sending out videos that it is strange they are being sent to point B but they showed up at point A. Or diverted to the Red Cross instead of trying to wander into a FEMA HQ with a landing zone, trying to add their stuff to a Chinook helicopter

    These people need to listen, have a plan and point of contact before they show up. Not just wander around

    It also looks like the Media Comms writer for https://www.facebook.com/NOAAClimateGov is at their breaking point.
     
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  9. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    The triple whammy of Frances, Ivan, Jeanne in 2004 counts as experience for those of us who were there. It wasn't this, but it was fair warning. I helped dig out some of the same areas most ********ed up now.
     
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  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's up to the States to develop emergency plans. The feds are there as backup.

    If you are going to have volunteers why not register them in advance and have them report in before heading off to help people?

    That way you know where people are helping and you can dispatch people to where they are needed most.
     
  11. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  12. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Uncle Miltie has a small eye with a very low barometric pressure under 900 mb. Hope he loses steam soon.

     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    all so predictable.

    now we get the eco fascism.
     
  14. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Sure. They keep electing climate change deniers as governors, congresscritters and state legislators. It's what they want to believe.
     
  15. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    A friend in Florida just explained to me that the hurricanes are the result of intentional weather control. Something to do with EMPs and chemtrails. I'm supposed to do my own research, so I thought I'd start here.
     
  16. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    And just think, MTG is actually a centrist in MAGA land! That shit will blow your mind.
     
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  17. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    Ha your friend is an idiot.

    He left out the undeniable effect of jewish space lasers.
     
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  18. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
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  20. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    How lieutenant Dan of him….

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  21. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wish him well.
     
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  22. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    #6497 spejic, Oct 8, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2024
    A decade or so back there was a serious storm hitting the Bay Area. Not hurricane, but like a once-in-10-years kind of storm. Seriously windy and lots of rain. And I was walking by the Embarcadero in San Francisco because I am a crazy person and I wanted a closer look at a Navy ship that had taken shelter in the Bay. No one else was around except a couple of city water department guys in their truck presumably pre-positioned for inevitable calls once things started overflowing. Then I came across something weird. There was a couple who looked and acted like marijuana was one of the 4 basic food groups and they were carrying a 10-foot dingy with a mast made of 1x2 boards and a sail made of a plastic housing-construction vapor barrier. And they wanted to go into the Bay. I appreciate maker culture and blind optimism as much as the next fellow, but the waves were white tipped and the winds were well over 50mph. Fortunately the civic-minded water department guys got out of their truck and tried very hard to tell those people they were not going out there in that little tiny boat. The argument lasted long enough for a good gust to hit and snapped that mast like a toothpick. That ended that. A couple of lives were saved that day, I think.
     
  23. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
    Club:
    Club Brugge KV
    I know Bill Gates is supposed to have made the microchips they injected into us during COVID-19, but who made the Hurricane Machine? People need to know the truth!
    Was is the same company that made the Jewish Space Laser? And how does one even get such a government contract to begin with?
     
  24. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wuhan Research Center for Live Chicken Infections and Weather Control.
     
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  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'm guessing you have to be Jewish but, y'know, it is only a guess.
     

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