The Global Warming Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by NickyViola, Nov 30, 2009.

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  1. YankHibee

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    Eris be praised
     
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  2. NewDadaCoach

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    Thanks for the laughs at least BM

    I needed that. It has been a rough start to the day with much meanness. I had to issue at least 5 mean credits so far. But I won't to yours because it was funny and not mean.
     
  3. NewDadaCoach

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    war at this point is just a mental construct.

    we don't actually need it anymore.

    we used to need it. it was just the way things were done for all of history. so its baked into our systems. into our psyche. and into the govt and economy as the military-industrial-complex.

    it would be very hard to accept no wars though. because a lot of jobs depend on it. workers in all of the defense contractors and of course the military personelle itself.

    same as the health care insurance system. even Obama said there are just too many jobs and companies that depend on it, so he can't get rid of it.
     
  4. NewDadaCoach

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    What I'm saying is that its not going to kill us. Whereas before I thought it might kill us.

    So that's a relief. But you're right, we shouldn't get complacent and just accept that its ok to burn all the oil in the ground. it's finite resource after all and this is basis for Elon's thesis of electric cars and solar energy.

    We will run out of oil. So Elon brilliantly started to create an alternative to it.

    Fast forward, he got super rich, so the libs shunned him, and he's been moving right ever since.
     
  5. NewDadaCoach

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    I hate to say it... but those scientists are missing something.

    Its what happens in group think and when you're stuck in a box with your thinking.

    Yes, I have the answer that everyone is missing. It took me years though to even realize it myself. I had to do some research to figure it out.

    I won't share it all here because Libs FC is not ready to be open to new ideas. But that's ok that is part of the human condition.
     
  6. Paul Berry

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    It's OK, even libs recognize delusion.
     
  7. rslfanboy

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    It would ultimately, but methane (CH4) takes 80 years to cycle through the atmosphere, and CO2 takes 400.

    We could have really made a dent if the GOP didn’t dominate the 80s. We are talking now about how bad we want to make it for our great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandkids and all the rest of life that has evolved to excel in the climate we’ve had the last 20,000 years or so.
     
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  8. Indeed.
    People have no idea how much Europe and in fact it's offspring USA, has benefitted from Western Europe being mild climated because of the warm gulf stream.
    We had temporary "glacial" hick ups with temperatures more fitting to our latitude (around 1792, which facilitated the French invasion across our frozen rivers, and in 1815 the Tambora eruption caused the year without a summer and 1883 Krakatoa.
    These caused famine in Europe.
     
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  9. dapip

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  10. rslfanboy

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    Section 26
  11. superdave

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    I’m reading a book about the “Year without summer.” I just learned that ca. 1800 it was the consensus among learned Americans that deforestation was affecting the weather.

    I found that interesting. Hopefully originalists like Alito and Thomas and Kavanagh will incorporate that into climate law jurisprudence.

    That desert comes and goes, historically speaking. I read a short free Kindle book (free meaning, take it as you like) that IIRC said the Sahara was at or near its “high tide” and was due to shrink.
     
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  12. That's what's terrible about the deforestation of the Amazon.
    The uninterrupted Amazon forests have a cascading effect on the availibility of water. Rain that falls will be absorbed by the trees and released as vapor into the air, which makes it possible to being "transported" by air to deeper inside the forest away from the coast.
    The deforestation ruins that cascading effect. With less trees less water is absorbed and via rivers flooding away to the ocean, while deeper land inwards because of the also lesser evaporation by trees, less water gets into the air to be blown land inwards. So deeper into the continent it gets dryer.
     
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  13. ElNaranja

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    This is the silliest thing posted by a non-nutjob on this board in weeks.

    Since when do those guys give a damn what academics think, especially if it contradicts their modern world view and theocratic ideology?
     
  14. American Brummie

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    I suspect dave was employing sarcasm.
     
  15. superdave

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    Me, sarcastic? Never!

    the whole joke is that originalism is a legal theory, not a historical one. It’s not like they actually know anything about history, or care really.
     
  16. Paul Berry

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    Firearms were banned in most cities throughout the nineteenth century.
     
  17. rslfanboy

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    Some places out West too, if you believe Unforgiven.
     
  18. ???
     
  19. Paul Berry

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    The West was in the United States.

    The gunfight at the OK Corral occurred because Tombstone banned the carrying of weapons.
     
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  20. superdave

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    Yeah, Hollywood movies are sometimes not historically accurate.
     
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  21. Paul Berry

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    I haven't watched any Hollywood movies about Tombstone.
     
  22. bigredfutbol

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    This book is great at debunking a lot of implicitly-held misunderstandings about the "Wild West".

    Victorian West

    It's not that there wasn't a period of violent lawlessness in the American Far West; but that era was brief in most places, and largely pre-dated the "West" of American imagination. During the settlement of the Western territories & states in the late 19th century, there was already a celebrity culture and nascent tourist industry commodifying the past of these regions.
     
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  23. rslfanboy

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    Could tombstone have qualified as a “city”? Pedants being pedantic, but I’m don’t think it would have been big enough to have been a city, but then again, these designations aren’t cut and dry.
     
  24. Paul Berry

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    It was the biggest settlement in Pima County and the county seat, and the city council had passed a city ordinance banning firearms on Apr 18, 1881, so they thought it was a city.
     
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  25. YankHibee

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    Going around some ghost towns in and around Death Valley this spring, I was amazed at how large some of the red light districts were relative to the size of the towns.
     
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