There already has been talk about shifting interest of the USA in NATO under Biden and with the incoming Republican president with some remarkable utterings about how he sees the alliency, the question is what will NATO look like and what will the global impact be of these shifts?
Fact Check: No, NATO Chief Didn't Say If Trump 'Surrenders Ukraine to Putin', US Will Be 'Expelled' From Alliance Yahoo News UK|1 day ago As secretary-general, Rutte does not have the authority to "personally expel" a country from the alliance. While he leads the alliance, according to NATO's website, "authority for taking decisions is invested only in the member governments themselves."
The law is 'not airtight': Trump may have a way out of NATO Politico|5 days ago Trump hasn't said publicly that he would pull out of NATO, but reportedly has discussed it repeatedly in private. He did say on the campaign trail that he would "encourage" Russia "to do whatever the hell they want" to NATO allies who don't spend enough on defense.
I was trying to put this in the best light and assume there is a language barrier causing this thread to miss the mark by a thousand miles. I can’t come up with one. NATO is a defensive alliances. Its purpose is to convince the ones considering attacking one of us that we would be united in our response. If Russia nukes Amsterdam and America does nothing wtf are you gonna do…take us to court waiving a copy of that treaty and talk about rules and by laws? This is silly. What deterrence the alliance has left is already up to Europe to create for themselves…because we’re already out and any obligations you think we have don’t exist.
Europe’s task: start reverse engineering every single US produced weapons system you have in your arsenal because not only can you likely not count on us to defend you…you can likely count on us treat you like we have Ukraine when you try to defend yourselves with the systems you bought from us.
???? Maybe it's your language skills lacking, because nothing you rant about is present in the thread title. There isnot a language barrier, you're hiding behind an invented one to cloak your condescending remark. Are you forgetting to take your medications in time? Waddafok are you on about?
Ok. I’ll break it down for you. You seem to think that something like the fact that Europe can’t kick the US out of nato is a thing. What I’m telling you is that it doesn’t matter. The United States is already out of nato. Because there is zero chance that the US will come to the collective defense of any nato member were they to be attacked. You’re already on your own. No formalities necessary. Whether the law is “air tight” or open like a sieve is equally immaterial. Again…the United States will not live up to their obligation to come to the defense of any nato member. Regardless of what the treaty says. And there is absolutely nothing NATO can do about it. NATO members have two options…1)recognize this reality and start acting now like the US isn’t a member and simply ignore us. Or 2)create a collective defense treaty amongst themselves and simply don’t invite the United States as a signatory. But the US is no longer a part of NATO…in that its entire function…again…is to convince a country like Russia that attacking one member is…attacking the United States. That’s no longer true. So again…any deterrent Europe wants against attack…they need to create on their own…cause the US ain’t coming.
Well regardless of anything else, they 100% have to stop buying American if we are treated as a hostile instead of an ally from now on. Would be idiotic to do otherwise. Easier said than done of course.
Where did I post : "You seem to think that something like the fact that Europe can’t kick the US out of nato is a thing." I linked an article I found funny in the context of this thread. What part of: The future of NATO, regardless of a Democratic or Republican president ..eludes you? You obviously have an opinion on the matter, so you're very welcome to express that and substantiate that by arguments. The way you enter the discussion is frankly rather insulting.