The Fritz Walter goal story

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  1. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Hi everybody.

    This is my attempt at the Fritz Walter's career goal story, on the basis of what @Gregoriak did some years ago for Gerd Müller (see http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/the-gerd-müller-goal-story.899630/).

    Why Fritz Walter, if I'm not even German and there's scant information and no video on his club career?

    Well, because it's fun. I've been trying to compile stats about the great goalscorers of the past for years, and Fritz Walter's case is most interesting. There's only very few data on pre-Bundesliga (and especially pre-1945) German club games, but I managed to find a couple of very good sources which I integrated with the things I've read here and there. My main source for this thread will be the awesome website Der Betze Brennt (www.der-betze-brennt.de), but this source itself has many holes so if you know anything more please just post it.

    Essentially, Walter scored TONS of goals in all sorts of German leagues, and German football historians know that the league structure before the Bundesliga (and especially before 1945) was REALLY messy. So hundreds of goals, a sizable portion of which -especially in the first part of his career- against really low opposition because before the end of WWII the Gauliga system (not to talk about the Tschammerpokal, the German cup of the time...) allowed for quite strong teams to face in their own regional leagues much weaker opposition than they would have found in a single-league national championship. So yeah, as I said: fun.

    Obviously Fritz Walter is rightly remembered today for having been one of the greatest German forwards of all time, so in any case exploring his games and stats won't be a complete waste of time ;)

    Anyway, here's the first part:
     
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  2. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1937-38 SEASON


    Key:
    TP[prel.] = Tschammerpokal (preliminary rounds)
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any

    In all these matches Walter played for 1. FC Kaiserslautern.


    05-05-1938-----TP[prel.]----------VfL Merzig---3-1----------------------------------------1 goal
    22-05-1938-----TP[prel.]----------SpVgg Mundenheim---5-1---------------------------3 goals
    04-06-1938-----TP[prel.]----------SG Neustadt---2-1-------------------------------------?? goal
    25-06-1938-----TP[prel.]----------Phönix Karlsruhe---2-3-------------------------------1 goal
     
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  3. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1938-39 SEASON


    Key:
    2.Div = Second Division
    2.Div[p/0] = Second Division (play-off)
    TP[prel.] = Tschammerpokal (preliminary rounds)
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.

    In all these matches Walter played for 1. FC Kaiserslautern.


    11-09-1938-----2.Div----------SV Niederauerbach---8-1--------------------------------4 goals
    18-09-1938-----2.Div----------SC Pirmasens---5-1----------------------------------------3 goals
    25-09-1938-----2.Div----------VfR Kaiserslautern---0-0
    02-10-1938-----2.Div----------VfL Homburg---1-1----------------------------------------1 goal
    09-10-1938-----2.Div----------FC Rodalben---7-0-----------------------------------------7 goals
    16-10-1938-----2.Div----------Kammgarn Kaiserslautern---5-0-----------------------5 goals
    23-10-1938-----2.Div----------VfL Homburg-Nord---2-0
    30-10-1938-----2.Div----------Reichsbahn Kaiserslautern---10-2---------------------6 goals
    [06-11-1938-----2.Div----------VfL Landstuhl---5-2]*
    13-11-1938-----2.Div----------VB Zweibrücken---8-0------------------------------------7 goals
    20-11-1938-----2.Div----------SG Neustadt---2-1-----------------------------------------2 goals
    04-12-1938-----2.Div----------MTS Kaiserslautern---3-1--------------------------------1 goal
    08-01-1939-----2.Div----------SG Pirmasens---11-2--------------------------------------7 goals
    15-01-1939-----2.Div----------VfR Kaiserslautern---5-0---------------------------------1 goal
    22-01-1939-----2.Div----------VfL Homburg---6-1----------------------------------------1 goal
    29-01-1939-----2.Div----------FC Rodalben---8-2-----------------------------------------4 goals
    05-02-1939-----2.Div----------Kammgarn Kaiserslautern---2-2------------------------1 goal
    12-02-1939-----2.Div----------VfL Homburg-Nord---7-0---------------------------------4 goals
    26-02-1939-----2.Div----------TuSV Landstuhl---2-2
    [05-03-1939-----2.Div----------VB Zweibrücken---1-2]*
    12-03-1939-----2.Div----------SG Neustadt---3-0------------------------------------------2 goals
    [12-03-1939-----TP[prel.]-----TSV Kandel---6-1]*
    [02-04-1939-----TP[prel.]-----FC Rammelsbach---3-1]*

    07-04-1939-----2.Div----------Reichsbahn Kaiserslautern---9-1------------------------3 goals
    10-04-1939-----2.Div----------SV Niederauerbach---2-5-----NO INFO WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    16-04-1939-----2.Div----------MTS Kaiserslautern---1-4
    17-04-1939-----TP[prel.]-----Homburg-Beeden---4-2------------------------------------1 goal
    14-05-1939-----2.Div[p/o]---TSG Burbach---3-2------------------------------------------2 goals
    29-05-1939-----2.Div[p/o]---VfR Frankenthal---2-1
    11-06-1939-----2.Div[p/o]---TSG Burbach---4-0------------------------------------------3 goals
    18-06-1939-----2.Div[p/o]---VfR Frankenthal---0-1


    NOTE: Since 1. FC Kaiserslautern beat Homburg-Beeden on 17th April 1939 it should have qualified for the next stage of the Tschammerpokal and thus it should have played at least one other match, but I can’t find it anywhere.
     
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  4. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1939-40 SEASON


    Key:
    GAU = Gauliga [=the regional, league stage of the German 1st division championship back then]
    GAU[p/0] = Gauliga (play-off)
    GAU[final] = Gauliga (final)
    TP[prel.] = Tschammerpokal (preliminary rounds)
    NT(friend.) = National team (friendly match)
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.

    In all these matches, except the one marked with "NT" (= National team), Walter played for 1. FC Kaiserslautern.


    26-11-1939-----GAU----------GfL Darmstadt---7-1--------------------------------------?? goal
    [10-12-1939-----GAU----------TSG Ludwigshafen---4-1]*
    17-12-1939-----GAU----------FK Pirmasens---5-1----------------------------------------2 goals
    26-12-1939-----GAU----------Borussia Neunkirchen---4-2-----------------------------1 goal
    07-01-1940-----GAU----------VfR Frankenthal---2-3---------NO INFO WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    18-02-1940-----GAU----------FK Pirmasens---13-6---------------------------------------5 goals
    03-03-1940-----GAU----------Borussia Neunkirchen---1-1
    10-03-1940-----GAU----------VfR Frankenthal---5-1-------------------------------------1 goal
    17-03-1940-----GAU----------Wormatia Worms---2-2----------------------------------1 goal
    21-03-1940-----GAU----------Wormatia Worms---6-2----------------------------------4 goals
    24-03-1940-----GAU----------TSG Ludwigshafen---3-3----------------------------------2 goals
    31-03-1940-----GAU----------GfL Darmstadt---10-1-------------------------------------4 goals
    07-04-1940-----GAU[p/o]-----Borussia Neunkirchen---4-1---------------------------1 goal
    14-04-1940-----GAU[final]----Kickers Offenbach---1-1
    21-04-1940-----GAU[final]----Kickers Offenbach---3-6--------------------------------2 goals
    [02-05-1940-----TP[prel.]-----SG Neustadt---1-0]*
    16-06-1940-----TP[prel.]-----SV Wiesbaden---5-3---------------------------------------1 goal
    07-07-1940-----TP[prel.]-----Eintracht Kreuznach---20-0------------------------------11 goals (!!)
    14-07-1940-----NT(friend.)--Romania---9-3----------------------------------------------3 goals
    04-08-1940-----TP[prel.]-----VfL Friedrichstahl---10-4---------------------------------5 goals
     
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  5. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1940-41 SEASON


    Key:
    GAU = Gauliga [=the regional, league stage of the German 1st division championship back then]
    TP = Tschammerpokal
    TP[prel.] = Tschammerpokal (preliminary rounds)
    NT(friend.) = National team (friendly match)
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.

    In all these matches, except the ones marked with "NT" (= National team), Walter played for 1. FC Kaiserslautern.


    18-08-1940-----TP-------------Fortuna Düsseldorf---2-3--------------------------------2 goals
    01-09-1940-----NT(friend.)--Finland---13-0----------------------------------------------2 goals
    08-09-1940-----GAU----------TSG Ludwigshafen---2-1----------------------------------1 goal
    [15-09-1940-----GAU----------SpVgg Mundenheim---1-0]*
    29-09-1940-----GAU----------FK Pirmasens---1-4
    06-10-1940-----NT(friend.)--Hungary---2-2
    20-10-1940-----NT(friend.)--Bulgaria---7-3

    27-10-1940-----GAU----------Borussia Neunkirchen---4-1-----------------------------2 goals
    03-11-1940-----NT(friend.)--Yugoslavia---0-2
    10-11-1940-----GAU----------TSG Burbach---3-2-----------------------------------------2 goals
    17-11-1940-----NT(friend.)--Denmark---1-0
    24-11-1940-----GAU----------VfR Frankenthal---1-1
    01-12-1940-----GAU----------FV Saarbrücken---3-3
    08-12-1940-----GAU----------FK Pirmasens---1-3-----------------------------------------1 goal
    26-01-1941-----GAU----------TSG Ludwigshafen---4-0-----------------------------------1 goal
    02-02-1941-----GAU----------FV Saarbrücken---0-5
    16-02-1941-----GAU----------TSG Burbach---9-0-----------------------------------------4 goals
    23-02-1941-----GAU----------VfR Frankenthal---8-4-------------------------------------4 goals
    02-03-1941-----GAU----------Borussia Neunkirchen---2-3-----------------------------1 goal
    [09-03-1941-----GAU----------SpVgg Mundenheim---2-4]*
    09-03-1941-----NT(friend.)--Switzerland---4-2-------------------------------------------1 goal
    06-04-1941-----NT(friend.)--Hungary---7-0-----------------------------------------------1 goal
    20-04-1941-----NT(friend.)--Switzerland---1-2

    [20-04-1941-----TP[prel.]-----SG Pirmasens---3-0]*
    18-05-1941-----TP[prel.]-----FK Walk---15-1----------------------------------------------?? goal
    01-06-1941-----NT(friend.)--Romania---4-1-----------------------------------------------1 goal
    15-06-1941-----NT(friend.)--Croatia---5-1-------------------------------------------------2 goals



    NOTE: Since 1. FC Kaiserslautern beat FK Walk on 18th May 1941 it should have qualified for the next stage of the Tschammerpokal and thus it should have played at least one other match, but I can’t find it anywhere.
     
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  6. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Kudos for this project which surely is not an easy task to go about!

    Recently I have uploaded the "Oberliga" lineups from 1948 to 1963 to my website. All of the information has been researched and compiled by the extraordinary late Raphael Keppel. (who, before he became an author of football statistic books once hijacked an airplane). You might be able to close some holes in case there's missing data:

    http://www.historical-lineups.com/german-bundesliga/oberliga/oberliga-south-west.html

    (South-West, the league Kaiserslautern was playing in)

    And the German championship final rounds 1948 to 1963:

    http://www.historical-lineups.com/german-championship-1949-1963.html

    And the German Cup (1935 to 1988):

    http://www.historical-lineups.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/19411.pdf

    Taken from the above pdf file for 1940-41, I found that Kaiserslautern did reach the next round played on 8 June 1941 where they were eliminated by Borussia Neunkirchen losing 3-7.
     
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  7. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    #7 Puskas 1988, Jul 22, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2016
    1941-42 SEASON


    Key:
    GAU = Gauliga [=the regional, league stage of the German 1st division championship back then]
    DM = Deutsche Meisterschaft [=the final stage of the German 1st division championship]
    NT(friend.) = National team (friendly match)
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.

    In all these matches, except the ones marked with "NT" (= National team), Walter played for 1. FC Kaiserslautern.


    21-09-1941-----GAU----------FV Saarbrücken---3-0---------------------------------------2 goals
    05-10-1941-----NT(friend.)--Sweden---2-4-------------------------------------------------1 goal
    12-10-1941-----GAU----------TSG Saargemünd---6-1-------------------------------------1 goal
    [19-10-1941-----GAU----------Tura Ludwigshafen---1-4]*
    26-10-1941-----GAU----------TSG Ludwigshafen---4-1------------------------------------3 goals
    02-11-1941-----GAU----------FV Metz---1-2-------------------------------------------------1 goal
    09-11-1941-----GAU----------FK Pirmasens---8-2-------------------------------------------3 goals
    16-11-1941-----NT(friend.)--Denmark---1-1
    23-11-1941-----GAU----------VfR Frankenthal---4-3
    30-11-1941-----GAU----------SpVgg Mundenheim---7-1---------------------------------3 goals
    07-12-1941-----NT(friend.)--Slovakia---4-0-------------------------------------------------1 goal
    14-12-1941-----GAU----------FV Saarbrücken---6-0---------------------------------------4 goals
    25-12-1941-----GAU----------TSG Saargemünd---1-1
    01-01-1942-----GAU----------Tura Ludwigshafen---13-1---------------------------------5 goals
    11-01-1942-----GAU----------Borussia Neunkirchen---5-5-------------------------------2 goals
    18-01-1942-----NT(friend.)--Croatia---2-0
    01-02-1942-----NT(friend.)--Switzerland---1-2

    15-03-1942-----GAU----------FK Pirmasens---26-0-----------------------------------------13 goals (!!)
    22-03-1942-----GAU----------TSG Ludwigshafen---2-0
    [29-03-1942-----GAU----------Borussia Neunkirchen---7-1]*
    [05-04-1942-----GAU----------SpVgg Mundenheim---4-3]*

    12-04-1942-----NT(friend.)--Spain---1-1
    19-04-1942-----GAU----------VfR Frankenthal---9-1---------------------------------------?? goal
    03-05-1942-----NT(friend.)--Hungary---5-3-------------------------------------------------2 goals
    10-05-1942-----DM-----------Waldhof Mannheim---7-1----------------------------------3 goals
    24-05-1942-----DM-----------Schalke 04---3-9----------------------------------------------2 goals
    19-07-1942-----NT(friend.)--Bulgaria---3-0
     
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  8. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1942-43 SEASON


    Key:
    GAU = Gauliga [=the regional, league stage of the German 1st division championship back then]
    TP = Tschammerpokal
    TP[prel.] = Tschammerpokal (preliminary rounds)
    NT(friend.) = National team (friendly match)
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.

    In all these matches, except the ones marked with "NT" (= National team), Walter played for 1. FC Kaiserslautern.
    HOWEVER, it needs to be said that Walter was drafted in the army at the beginning of the season and not only barely played any match with 1. FC Kaiserslautern, towards the end of the season he also played some matches (I have no data about how many exactly, and how many goals he scored) in the second division with TSG Diedenhofen, the team of the city in which he was stationed at the time.


    [20-07-1942-----TP-------------Kickers Offenbach---2-3]*
    16-08-1942-----NT(friend.)--Romania---7-0-------------------------------------------------3 goals
    [06-09-1942-----GAU----------VfR Frankenthal---2-2]*
    [13-09-1942-----GAU----------TSG Ludwigshafen---2-5]*

    20-09-1942-----NT(friend.)--Sweden---2-3
    [27-09-1942-----GAU----------TSG Oppau---4-2]*
    [11-10-1942-----GAU----------TSG Saargemünd---2-5]*

    18-10-1942-----NT(friend.)--Switzerland---5-3----------------------------------------------1 goal
    [25-10-1942-----GAU----------Borussia Neunkirchen---2-5]*
    01-11-1942-----NT(friend.)--Croatia---5-1----------------------------------------------------1 goal
    15-11-1942-----GAU----------FV Metz---0-1
    22-11-1942-----NT(friend.)--Slovakia---5-2
    [29-11-1942-----GAU----------SC Altenkessel---6-3]*
    [06-12-1942-----GAU----------Tura Ludwigshafen---2-1]*

    20-12-1942-----GAU----------TSG Ludwigshafen---1-0
    27-12-1942-----GAU----------TSG Oppau---3-0-----------------------------------------------1 goal
    [03-01-1943-----GAU----------FV Saarbrücken---3-4]*
    [10-01-1943-----GAU----------TSG Saargemünd---5-2]*
    [17-01-1943-----GAU----------FV Saarbrücken---2-1]*
    [24-01-1943-----GAU----------Borussia Neunkirchen---4-1]*
    [14-02-1943-----GAU----------FV Metz---1-3]*
    [28-02-1943-----GAU----------SC Altenkessel---2-1]*
    [07-03-1943-----GAU----------Tura Ludwigshafen---1-2]*

    11-04-1943-----TP[prel.]-----VfR Frankenthal---8-1----------------------------------------?? goal
    25-04-1943-----TP[prel.]-----TSG Ludwigshafen---4-0
    02-05-1943-----TP[prel.]-----Reichsbahn Kaiserslautern---12-1-------------------------?? goal
    [23-05-1943-----TP[prel.]-----Borussia Neunkirchen---2-2]*
    [06-06-1943-----TP[prel.]-----Borussia Neunkirchen---8-4]*

    27-06-1943-----TP[prel.]-----SV Völklingen---3-1-------NO INFO WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    [18-07-1943-----TP[prel.]-----TSG Ludwigshafen---7-3]*
    [25-07-1943-----TP[prel.]-----FV Metz---2-0]*
    [02-08-1943-----TP[prel.]-----FV Saarbrücken---2-4]*
     
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  9. peterhrt

    peterhrt Member+

    Oct 21, 2015
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Very interesting project.

    On RSSSF there is a recent file by Matthias Arnhold (Jan 2016) giving season-by-season Div 1 league matches and goals for Walter. If his stats are correct, Walter did play on 7/1/1940 v VfR Frankenthal. And in this game and the one on 26/11/1939 v GfL Darmstadt, Walter scored a total of 7 goals. (His team scored 9 in the two matches).

    The same source would suggest that Walter scored 2 goals on 19/4/1942 against VfR Frankenthal. (Result 9-1).
     
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  10. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Thanks! And thank you for the info about the 1941 Tschammerpokal, I needed that!

    I knew of your historical lineups project, and actually I've used your very valuable website to retrieve more than a couple of data! :) Do you have plans to update your work (if possible) with the data from the 1945-51 period?
     
  11. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Thanks peterht :) I knew of that RSSSF page (it's actually when I saw the original version of that page, 3 or 4 years ago, that I started to research data about Walter's career!), and yes I've done some maths with the data it shows, but since there are another couple of sources which give slightly different numbers of matches and goals I'd prefer to retrieve info about the specific matches that I'm missing so that my data will be more correct.
     
  12. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    So, for now that's...

    1937-38: 4 matches and 5+ (and possibly as many as 7) goals in the preliminary rounds of the Tschammerpokal.

    1938-39: 22 matches and 59+ (and possibly as many as 61) goals in the second division:
    4 matches and 5 goals in the second division playoff;
    at least 1 match and 1 goal in the preliminary rounds of the Tschammerpokal.

    NOTE: I made a mistake in the post above. Walter did play in the 10-4-39 match; I just don't know whether he scored.

    1939-40: 10/11 matches and 20+ (and possibly as many as 29) goals in the Gauliga Südwest (Saarpfalz group);
    1 match and 1 goal in the playoff to determine the winner of the Saarpfalz group;
    2 matches and 2 goals in the playoff to determine the winner of the Gauliga Südwest;
    3 matches and 17 goals in the preliminary rounds of the Tschammerpokal;
    1 match and 3 goals with the German national team.

    1940-41: 1 match and 2 goals in the Tschammerpokal;
    12 matches and 16 goals in the Gauliga Südwest;
    1/2 matches in the preliminary rounds of the Tschammerpokal, in which Kaiserslautern scored 18 goals;
    10 matches and 7 goals with the German national team.

    1941-42: 14 matches and 37+ goals (and possibly as many as 46) in the Gauliga Westmark;
    2 matches and 5 goals in the Deutsche Meisterschaft;
    8 matches and 4 goals with the German national team.

    1942-43: 3 matches and 1 goal in the Gauliga Westmark;
    he might have played in up to 4 of the 9 matches that Kaiserslautern played in the preliminary rounds of the Tschammerpokal; in these 4 matches Kaiserslautern scored 27 goals;
    an unknown (and not high) number of matches and goals for TSG Diedenhofen in the second division;
    5 matches and 5 goals with the German national team.
     
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  13. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1943-44 SEASON


    Key:
    GAU = Gauliga [=the regional, league stage of the German 1st division championship back then]
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.


    12-09-1943-----GAU----------KSG Speyer---0-1-------------------NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED!
    19-09-1943-----GAU----------Tura Ludwigshafen---2-1------------NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED!
    10-10-1943-----GAU----------KSG Ludwigshafen---2-3---NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    [17-10-1943-----GAU----------TSG Saargemünd---2-2]*
    [24-10-1943-----GAU----------Borussia Neunkirchen---4-2]*
    [31-10-1943-----GAU----------VfR Frankenthal---1-2]*
    [14-11-1943-----GAU----------TSG Merlebach---2-2]*
    [12-12-1943-----GAU----------FV Metz---0-5]*
    [02-01-1944-----GAU----------KSG Speyer---9-1]*

    23-01-1944-----GAU----------KSG Ludwigshafen---1-7---NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    [13-02-1944-----GAU----------Borussia Neunkirchen---1-8]*
    12-03-1944-----GAU----------TSG Saargemünd---2-5---------------------------------------?? goal
    26-03-1944-----GAU----------KSG Saarbrücken---0-0
    [02-04-1944-----GAU----------TSG Merlebach---3-5]*
    16-04-1944-----GAU----------FV Metz---1-3---------------------------------------------------?? goal
    23-04-1944-----GAU----------Tura Ludwigshafen---1-3


    TOTAL:
    at least 4 (and possibly as many as 8) matches in the Gauliga Westmark, in which he might have scored a maximum of 6 goals.


    1944-45 SEASON

    Because of the Nazi defeat in the war, the German league was suspended. Walter, who himself was detained by the Allies for a brief period, almost certainly did not play any official match.
     
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  14. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1945-46 SEASON


    Key:
    OL = Oberliga [=one of the four regional leagues which were played in Germany in the 1945-46 season]
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.


    13-01-1946-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---10-0---------------------------------?? goal
    20-01-1946-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---4-2
    27-01-1946-----OL------------FK Pirmasens---2-1----------------------------------------------1 goal
    03-02-1946-----OL------------Borussia Neunkirchen---1-2-----------------------------------?? goal
    10-02-1946-----OL------------Mainz 05---13-0--------------------------------------------------3 goals
    17-02-1946-----OL------------VfR Frankenthal---12-3-----------------------------------------3 goals
    24-02-1946-----OL------------Hassia Bingen---5-0----------------------------------------------1 goal
    03-03-1946-----OL------------1. FC Saarbrücken---1-4
    17-03-1946-----OL------------1. FC Idar---7-1----------------------------------------------------1+ goals
    [07-04-1946-----OL------------Hassia Bingen---8-1]*
    14-04-1946-----OL------------Mainz 05---4-1----------------------------------------------------?? goal
    28-04-1946-----OL------------VfR Frankenthal---10-1------------------------------------------?? goal
    12-05-1946-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---4-1
    19-05-1946-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---1-1-------------------------------------1 goal
    26-05-1946-----OL------------FK Pirmasens---2-1
    02-06-1946-----OL------------Borussia Neunkirchen---2-2-----------------------------------1 goal
    16-06-1946-----OL------------1. FC Saarbrücken---2-0
    23-06-1946-----OL------------1. FC Idar---7-4---------------------------------------------------?? goal


    TOTAL:

    17 matches and 11+ goals in the Oberliga Südwest.
    *Some holes here, unfortunately: data about 6 matches missing, which includes two matches in which Kaiserslautern scored 10 goals and two in which they scored 7 (actually, I know that in the match against Frankenthal five of the ten goals were scored by Grewenig, so that's 5 goals that Walter can't have scored).
    Plus, data here are a bit controversial: some resources on the net, including wikipedia and RSSSF (http://www.rsssf.com/players/fwalterdata.html) give Walter 14 matches and 16 goals this year. But yeah, according to the match by match report by Der Betze Brennt website, he played in 17 matches. I'm a bit puzzled about this season, but at least apparently we have data for 12 out of 18 matches...
     
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  15. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1946-47 SEASON


    Key:
    OL = Oberliga [=one of the four regional leagues which were played in Germany in the 1946-47 season]
    OL[final] = Oberliga (final)
    OL[unf.] = Oberliga (unfinished) [=a new Oberliga season was originally started in October 1946 but was left unfinished]
    PP = Pfalz Pokal [=I *think* it was a qualification tournament for the 1947 Oberliga, but I might be wrong as this is a very obscure, practically unknown cup]
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.


    06-10-1946-----OL[unf.]-----Mainz 05---3-2
    13-10-1946-----OL[unf.]-----FSV Trier---7-0--------------------------------------------------------?? goal
    27-10-1946-----OL[unf.]-----FK Pirmasens---8-0--------------------------------------------------?? goal
    [03-11-1946-----OL[unf.]-----1. FC Idar---3-3]*
    10-11-1946-----OL[unf.]-----SpVgg Andernach---6-0---------------------------------------------1 or 2 goals
    [17-11-1946-----OL[unf.]-----Wormatia Worms---0-1]*
    24-11-1946-----OL[unf.]-----VfR Frankenthal---3-0-----------------------------------------------1 goal
    01-12-1946-----PP------------SC Kaiserslautern---9-1---------------------------------------------?? goal
    08-12-1946-----PP------------SG Siegelbach---11-0------------------------------------------------2 goals
    15-12-1946-----PP------------BSC Oppau---4-0-----------------------------------------------------?? goal
    22-12-1946-----PP------------ASV Hochfeld---15-2------------------------------------------------?? goal
    05-01-1947-----PP------------VfR Friesenheim---6-3-----------------------------------------------3 goals
    12-01-1947-----OL------------Borussia Neunkirchen---6-2----------------------------------------3 goals
    19-01-1947-----OL------------FSV Trier-Kürenz---8-0----------------------------------------------2 goals
    26-01-1947-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---10-0-------------------------------------------3 goals
    09-02-1947-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---4-2-----------------------------------------1 goal
    16-02-1947-----OL------------Mainz 05---1-3
    23-02-1947-----OL------------TuS Neuendorf---3-1-------------------------------------------------1+ goals
    09-03-1947-----OL------------1. FC Saarbrücken---6-0---------------------------------------------1 goal
    16-03-1947-----OL------------Borussia Neunkirchen---1-1-----------------------------------------1 goal
    23-03-1947-----OL------------FSV Trier-Kürenz---20-0--------------------------------------------4 goals
    30-03-1947-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---2-0---------------------------------------------1 goal
    13-04-1947-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---2-0
    20-04-1947-----OL------------Mainz 05---6-1--------------------------------------------------------4 goals
    27-04-1947-----OL------------TuS Neuendorf---5-3------------------------------------------------2 goals
    04-05-1947-----OL------------1. FC Saarbrücken---1-2
    01-06-1947-----OL[final]----VfL Konstanz---8-1----------------------------------------------------1 goal
    15-06-1947-----OL[final]----VfL Konstanz---8-4----------------------------------------------------4 goals


    TOTAL:

    14 matches and 23+ goals (and possibly as many as 25) in the Oberliga Südwest;
    2 matches and 5 goals in the final of the Oberliga Südwest (French occupation zone);
    5 matches in the unfinished Oberliga which was abandoned in November: he scored 2-3 goals plus an unknown number of goals out of the 15 that Kaiserslautern scored in the two matches of the 13th and 27th October;
    5 matches in the Pfalz Pokal: he scored 5 goals plus an unknown number of goals out of the 29 that Kaiserslautern scored in the three matches of the 1st, 15th and 22nd December.
     
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  16. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    1945-51 is very difficult regarding Germany (the earliest info I have is 1947-48). For other countries of course data is available (Argentina for example) or England.
     
  17. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1947-48 SEASON


    Key:
    OL = Oberliga [=the regional, league stage of the German 1st division championship back then]
    OL[final] = Oberliga (final)
    DM = Deutsche Meisterschaft [=the final stage of the German 1st division championship]
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.


    28-09-1947-----OL------------FK Pirmasens---2-1
    05-10-1947-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---9-0-----------------------------------------?? goal
    12-10-1947-----OL------------SG Gonsenheim---13-0----------------------------------------------?? goal
    19-10-1947-----OL------------VfL Neustadt---6-1---------------------------------------------------?? goal
    26-10-1947-----OL------------FSV Trier-Kürenz---5-0---------------------------------------------3 goals
    02-11-1947-----OL------------Saar 05 Saarbrücken---4-1
    09-11-1947-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---2-1----------------------------------------------1 goal
    16-11-1947-----OL------------SpVgg Andernach---13-0---------------------------------------------?? goal
    30-11-1947-----OL------------TuS Neuendorf---5-1--------------------------------------------------1 goal
    [07-12-1947-----OL------------Mainz 05---3-0]*
    [21-12-1947-----OL------------SG Völklingen---13-1]*

    11-01-1948-----OL------------Borussia Neunkirchen---4-0-----------------------------------------1 goal
    18-01-1948-----OL------------1. FC Saarbrücken---6-0----------------------------------------------1 goal
    01-02-1948-----OL------------FK Pirmasens---9-1---------------------------------------------------3 goals
    15-02-1948-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---0-0--------------NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED!
    22-02-1948-----OL------------TuS Neuendorf---4-2-------------------------------------------------1 goal
    29-02-1948-----OL------------SG Gonsenheim---6-0
    14-03-1948-----OL------------VfL Neustadt---0-2
    21-03-1948-----OL------------FSV Trier-Kürenz---5-0----------------------------------------------?? goal
    04-04-1948-----OL------------SG Völklingen---3-1
    18-04-1948-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---5-1----------------------------------------------2 goals
    25-04-1948-----OL------------SpVgg Andernach---11-2---------------------------------------------?? goal
    02-05-1948-----OL------------Saar 05 Saarbrücken---7-0-------------------------------------------1 goal
    30-05-1948-----OL------------1. FC Saarbrücken---0-0
    08-06-1948-----OL------------Borussia Neunkirchen---3-1
    13-06-1948-----OL------------Mainz 05---13-2--------------------------------------------------------?? goal
    20-06-1948-----OL[final]----SV Rastatt---3-0
    28-06-1948-----OL[final]----SV Rastatt---6-1--------------------------------------------------------?? goal
    18-07-1948-----DM-----------1860 München---5-1
    25-07-1948-----DM-----------SpVgg Neuendorf---5-1-----------------------------------------------1 goal
    08-08-1948-----DM-----------1. FC Nürnberg---1-2


    TOTAL:

    23/24 matches and 14+ goals in the Oberliga Südwest; records for individual matches are really patchy here unfortunately, with 7 games in which I don't know how many goals did he score and in which Kaiserslautern amassed an amazing 70 goals. Most sources, though, agree that in this Oberliga season Walter played 24 matches and scored 31 goals;
    *What I do know is that Ottmar Walter, Fritz's brother, scored 5 goals in the 13-0 vs. SG Gonsenheim, 8 in the 13-0 vs. SpVgg Andernach, 5 in the 11-2 vs. SpVgg Andernach and 5 in the 13-2 vs. Mainz 05. So that's 23 goals which Fritz can't have scored in those matches.*
    2 matches in the final of the Oberliga Südwest, in which he might have scored up to 6 goals;
    3 matches and 1 goal in the Deutsche Meisterschaft.
     
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  18. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1948-49 SEASON


    Key:
    OL = Oberliga [=the regional, league stage of the German 1st division championship back then]
    OL[final] = Oberliga (final)
    DM = Deutsche Meisterschaft [=the final stage of the German 1st division championship]
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.


    19-09-1948-----OL------------SpVgg Andernach---7-1
    26-09-1948-----OL------------Eintracht Trier---14-0-------------------------------------------------?? goal
    03-10-1948-----OL------------VfL Neustadt---10-1---------------------------------------------------?? goal
    10-10-1948-----OL------------ASV Oppau---12-0-----------------------------------------------------?? goal
    24-10-1948-----OL------------Mainz 05---7-1
    31-10-1948-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---2-2
    07-11-1948-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---6-2
    [13-11-1948-----OL------------SG Gonsenheim---3-2]*
    21-11-1948-----OL------------FK Pirmasens---4-0----------------------------------------------------1 goal
    28-11-1948-----OL------------FSV Trier-Kürenz---1-0
    05-12-1948-----OL------------SG Weisenau---6-0-----------------------------------------------------3 goals
    12-12-1948-----OL------------TuS Neuendorf---5-2
    23-01-1949-----OL------------Eintracht Trier---5-1---------------------------------------------------2 goals
    30-01-1949-----OL------------VfL Neustadt---7-1-----------------------------------------------------?? goal
    06-02-1949-----OL------------ASV Oppau---4-0
    20-02-1949-----OL------------Mainz 05---5-1
    27-02-1949-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---1-0-----------------------------------------------1 goal
    06-03-1949-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---0-1
    13-03-1949-----OL------------SG Gonsenheim---13-0------------------------------------------------5 goals
    [20-03-1949-----OL------------FK Pirmasens---0-2]*
    27-03-1949-----OL------------FSV Trier Kürenz---9-1-------------------------------------------------?? goal
    03-04-1949-----OL------------SG Weisenau---16-1----------------------------------------------------6 goals
    10-04-1949-----OL------------TuS Neuendorf---1-4
    17-04-1949-----OL------------SpVgg Andernach---5-3------------------------------------------------?? goal
    15-05-1949-----OL[final]----Fortuna Freiburg---4-0-------------------------------------------------3 goals
    22-05-1949-----OL[final]----Fortuna Freiburg---6-3-------------------------------------------------2 goals
    12-06-1949-----DM-----------FC St. Pauli---1-1
    19-06-1949-----DM-----------FC St. Pauli---4-1
    20-06-1949-----DM-----------Borussia Dortmund---0-0
    03-07-1949-----DM-----------Borussia Dortmund---1-4
    09-07-1949-----DM-----------Kickers Offenbach---2-1


    TOTAL:

    22 matches and 18+ goals in the Oberliga Südwest; there are some holes for this year also, with 6 games in which I don't know how many goals did he score and in which Kaiserslautern amassed 57 goals. Most sources, though, agree that in this Oberliga season Walter played 22 matches and scored 30 goals;
    *What I do know is that Bassler scored 5 goals in the 9-1 win vs. FSV Trier Kürenz, so at least that's 5 goals which Fritz can't have scored in those matches.*
    2 matches and 5 goals in the final of the Oberliga Südwest;
    5 matches and 0 goals in the Deutsche Meisterschaft.
     
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  19. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1949-50 SEASON


    Key:
    OL = Oberliga [=the regional, league stage of the German 1st division championship back then]
    OL[final] = Oberliga (final)
    DM = Deutsche Meisterschaft [=the final stage of the German 1st division championship]
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.


    18-09-1949-----OL------------SpVgg Andernach---5-2------------------------------------------------3 goals
    02-10-1949-----OL------------VfL Neustadt---6-0------------------------------------------------------1 goal
    09-10-1949-----OL------------Eintracht Trier---6-1
    16-10-1949-----OL------------ASV Oppau---4-1---------------------------------------------------------3 goals
    23-10-1949-----OL------------VfR Kirn---12-3-----------------------------------------------------------?? goal
    [06-11-1949-----OL------------ASV Landau---10-0]*
    20-11-1949-----OL------------Mainz 05---7-0-----------------------------------------------------------1 goal
    27-11-1949-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---1-2
    04-12-1949-----OL------------SG Weisenau---4-0
    11-12-1949-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---3-0
    18-12-1949-----OL------------FV Engers---13-0---------------------------------------------------------?? goal
    25-12-1949-----OL------------VfR Kaiserslautern---3-0
    08-01-1950-----OL------------TuS Neuendorf---3-2
    15-01-1950-----OL------------FSV Trier-Kürenz---18-0------------------------------------------------6 goals
    05-02-1950-----OL------------FK Pirmasens---1-1
    [12-02-1950-----OL------------SpVgg Andernach---5-2]*
    [26-02-1950-----OL------------VfL Neustadt---2-1]*

    05-03-1950-----OL------------Eintracht Trier---2-2---------------------------------------------------1 goal
    12-03-1950-----OL------------ASV Oppau---5-0-------------------------------------------------------1 goal
    26-03-1950-----OL------------VfR Kaiserslautern---9-1-----------------------------------------------?? goal
    29-03-1950-----OL------------SG Weisenau---9-1-----------------------------------------------------1 goal
    02-04-1950-----OL------------FK Pirmasens---2-0
    07-04-1950-----OL------------Mainz 05---2-0----------------------------------------------------------1 goal
    10-04-1950-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---1-1
    16-04-1950-----OL------------ASV Landau---4-0------------------------------------------------------3 goals
    23-04-1950-----OL------------TuS Neuendorf---3-0
    30-04-1950-----OL------------FV Engers---2-1---------------------------------------------------------1 goal
    03-05-1950-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---1-1
    07-05-1950-----OL[final]----SSV Reutlingen---6-1--------------------------------------------------2 goals
    21-05-1950-----DM-----------Rot-Weiß Essen---2-2-------------------------------------------------2 goals
    29-05-1950-----DM-----------Rot-Weiß Essen---3-2-------------------------------------------------1 goal
    04-06-1950-----DM-----------VfB Stuttgart---2-5
    11-06-1950-----OL------------VfR Kaiserslautern---10-2---------------------------------------------1 goal
    [25-06-1950-----OL------------FSV Trier-Kürenz---4-0]*


    26 matches and 23+ goals in the Oberliga Südwest; there are three games in this year for which I don't know how many goals did he score and in which Kaiserslautern scored 34 goals. Most sources, though, agree that in this Oberliga season Walter played 26 matches and scored 34 goals;
    1 match and 2 goals in the final of the Oberliga Südwest;
    3 matches and 3 goals in the Deutsche Meisterschaft.
     
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  20. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1950-51 SEASON


    Key:
    OL = Oberliga [=the regional, league stage of the German 1st division championship back then]
    DM = Deutsche Meisterschaft [=the final stage of the German 1st division championship]
    NT(friend.) = National team (friendly match)
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.


    03-09-1950-----OL------------TuRa Ludwigshafen---2-1---NOT SURE WH. HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    10-09-1950-----OL------------VfL 07 Neustadt---3-0----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    17-09-1950-----OL------------FV Engers---4-0----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    24-09-1950-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---3-0--NOT SURE WH. HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    01-10-1950-----OL------------VfR Kaiserslautern---3-0----NOT SURE WH. HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    08-10-1950-----OL------------ASV Landau---6-1----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    15-10-1950-----OL------------TuS Neuendorf---0-0----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED!
    22-10-1950-----OL------------FK Pirmasens---6-1----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    29-10-1950-----OL------------Eintracht Trier---4-1----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    01-11-1950-----OL------------Eintracht Kreuznach---4-2----NOT SURE WH. HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    05-11-1950-----OL------------SpVgg Andernach---3-0---NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    26-11-1950-----OL------------Mainz 05---7-1----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    03-12-1950-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---0-2----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED!
    17-12-1950-----OL------------TuRa Ludwigshafen---7-0----NOT SURE WH. HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    07-01-1951-----OL------------VfL Neustadt---4-0----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    14-01-1951-----OL------------FV Engers---0-1----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED!
    28-01-1951-----OL------------VfR Kaiserslautern---2-0---NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    11-02-1951-----OL------------ASV Landau---3-1----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    18-02-1951-----OL------------TuS Neuendorf---2-2----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    25-02-1951-----OL------------FK Pirmasens---7-0----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    04-03-1951-----OL------------Eintracht Trier---6-1----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    11-03-1951-----OL------------SpVgg Andernach---2-0----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    18-03-1951-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---3-0----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    01-04-1951-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---5-1----NOT SURE WH. HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    08-04-1951-----OL------------Mainz 05---7-1----NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    15-04-1951-----OL------------Eintracht Kreuznach---2-0----NOT SURE WH. HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    15-04-1951-----NT(friend.)--Switzerland---3-2------------------------------------------------------1 goal
    06-05-1951-----DM-----------SpVgg Fürth---2-2
    13-05-1951-----DM-----------FC St. Pauli---4-2-------------------------------------------------------1 goal
    20-05-1951-----DM-----------FC Schalke 04---1-0
    27-05-1951-----DM-----------FC St. Pauli---2-0
    03-06-1951-----DM-----------SpVgg Fürth---3-1
    10-06-1951-----DM-----------FC Schalke 04---2-3
    17-06-1951-----NT(friend.)--Turkey---1-2
    30-06-1951-----DM-----------Preußen Münster---2-1


    TOTAL:

    No individual data for any match of the Oberliga Südwest for this year, unfortunately. Most sources, though, agree that in this Oberliga season Walter played 19 matches and scored 5/6 goals;
    7 matches and 1 goal in the Deutsche Meisterschaft;
    2 matches and 1 goal with the German national team.
     
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  21. Puskas 1988

    Puskas 1988 Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    1951-52 SEASON


    Key:
    OL = Oberliga [=the regional, league stage of the German 1st division championship back then]
    NT(friend.) = National team (friendly match)
    ?? goals = I don't know how many goals did Walter score in that match, if any
    [match]* = if a match is written between square brackets and with the symbol * at the end, it means Walter did not play.


    19-08-1951-----OL------------Eintracht Kreuznach---1-1
    26-08-1951-----OL------------Mainz 05---4-2
    02-09-1951-----OL------------Eintracht Trier---1-2
    09-09-1951-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---6-1--------------------------------------------2 goals
    16-09-1951-----OL------------VfL Neustadt---1-1--------NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    23-09-1951-----NT(friend.)--Austria---2-0
    30-09-1951-----OL------------VfR Kaiserslautern---4-1------------------------------------------------2 goals
    07-10-1951-----OL------------FV Engers---0-0
    17-10-1951-----NT(friend.)--Ireland---2-3---------------------------------------------------------------1 goal
    21-10-1951-----OL------------Borussia Neunkirchen---5-2---------------------------------------------1 goal
    28-10-1951-----OL------------FK Pirmasens---1-2
    [04-11-1951-----OL------------SpVgg Weisenau---2-1]*
    11-11-1951-----OL------------VfR Frankenthal---7-2
    18-11-1951-----OL------------1. FC Saarbrücken---0-1
    21-11-1951-----NT(friend.)--Turkey---2-0
    02-12-1951-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---3-3
    09-12-1951-----OL------------TuS Neuendorf---1-2
    16-12-1951-----OL------------Eintracht Kreuznach---4-0
    23-12-1951-----NT(friend.)--Luxembourg---4-1
    26-12-1951-----OL------------Tura Ludwigshafen---8-0--NOT SURE WHETHER HE PLAYED OR SCORED!
    30-12-1951-----OL------------SpVgg Weisenau---12-0----------------------------------------------------3 goals
    06-01-1952-----OL------------Mainz 05---4-1--------------------------------------------------------------1 goal
    13-01-1952-----OL------------FV Engers---6-0-------------------------------------------------------------2 goals
    20-01-1952-----OL------------Borussia Neunkirchen---2-1
    27-01-1952-----OL------------Tura Ludwigshafen---0-0
    03-02-1952-----OL------------VfL Neustadt---6-0--------------------------------------------------------3 goals
    10-02-1952-----OL------------FK Pirmasens---2-0
    17-02-1952-----OL------------1. FC Saarbrücken---3-1
    02-03-1952-----OL------------Phönix Ludwigshafen---6-0----------------------------------------------1 goal
    09-03-1952-----OL------------Eintracht Trier---5-0
    16-03-1952-----OL------------TuS Neuendorf---4-3------------------------------------------------------1 goal
    23-03-1952-----OL------------VfR Kaiserslautern---2-4
    [13-04-1952-----OL------------Wormatia Worms---2-4]*
    20-04-1952-----OL------------VfR Frankenthal---0-1


    TOTAL:

    26+ matches (and possibly as many as 28) and 16+ goals in the Oberliga Südwest; there are two games in this year for which I don't know how many goals did he score and in which Kaiserslautern scored 9 goals. Most sources, though, agree that in this Oberliga season Walter played 27 matches and scored 19 goals;
    4 matches and 1 goals with the German national team.

    Starting from this season, my main data source becomes @Gregoriak 's excellent historical lineups website (http://www.historical-lineups.com/).
     
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