The Fort in 2003

Sorry to hear that has happened yet again.

I agree that the Riders should sit down with the Revs and get this all straightened out. And the Revs staff needs to communicate to all ticket, security and police staff that the Fort is a standing section. Those that request to be in the Fort should be able to do so and be able to stand. For those that don't want to stand, they should seek other CAT 3 seating and be offered such seating by the ticket office.

 

I'm waiting for our resident Kraft rumpswabs, George Plumber and Rev Okey-Dokey to come in here and chide us for being annoyed at this, because "the Revs had a great season."

But this is a perfect example of how the overall game-day experience can be ruined by idiots who don't know the generally accepted rules. Hey, if it was up to me, I would have told that idiot and his wife where to go, and that they should not have bought tickets in the fort if they weren't willing to accept that it is a de-facto general admission section. And the cops/security have even less excuse than bandwagon jumping fans who are at their first game and didn't know better.

This is the kind of stuff that had been sorted out around May of 1996, but because of either misfeasance or malfeasance, we are still dealing with it.

Would either of our most vocal "shiny happy people" care to chime in and tell us how we've got it all wrong?

Tom

 

Sure thing Tammy

Look the folks bought tickets for the first two rows and they wanted to sit there

The cops just did their job as they were asked for help by those ticket holders

There was no sign saying that 143 was general admission

It most likely didnt say it on their tickets either

They wanted to sit in the seats they bought. They wanted to be close to the action

God forbid that eh ?

As for bashing people for jumping on the bandwagon - that makes a ton of sense. Let's discourage all new soccer fans right ?

You're a jackass Tammy. Plain and simple. You're a spoiled little brat who wants his own special section where no one else can come and watch the game from. Get over yourself Tammy.

For the love of god man if you hate the Krafts so damn much stay the ************ home !!!!!!

Go REVS !

 

Hey George did you miss the point of this thread?

 

George did, but then, he wasn't the having to deal with harassment from the Plainville Police and Gillette Stadium Security. If he wants to sit where he does and support the team more passively then other fans then that's his perrogative.

But hey, Hilly did try to wind George up a bit and he did...

That being said Guy raises a very good point about making the section General Admission. In fact, there were some very constructive discussions at the Supporters Summit regarding that very same practice in Kansas City where their most vocal and passionate supporters have their own section, and GA tickets (both gameday and season-tickets) sold through the club in that section. According to one of their long-standing supporters, when this policy was agreed to for the 2002 season the numbers in said section increased markedly over the course of the season.

I think that's a very good idea that hopefully we can work towards in 2003.

The Magpie

 

it is unbelievable that this is an issue after 7 years... if the Revs don't want a supporters section (or group) that is fine... just tell me and me and my season tickets (plus parking and whatever else I have spent on the team) will stay home and watch on the television... 2.5 hours less driving (each way) to get to the games... if they want the group and the section, just print general admission, standing on the tickets where it says row and seat and be done with it... you want to be in the front for this game, fine, you want to stand 15 rows up for that game, fine... just get there soon enough to stake out your spot...

one year they did say standing on the tickets (not the season tickets, but the printed ones)... I wonder what happened to that...

anyway, just one more way of seeming to go out of the way to alienate people that shouldn't happen after this length of time...

btw, the fact that the team is doing well and seems to have some spirit after all this time is not an excuse... I'll enjoy myself as long as people (including, especially, the ridiculous excuse for security and the management that supposedly hires and control them) don't go out of their way to alienate real fans of the sport and the club...


rand

 

You've got to be kidding George. For your information, the Fort is a "special section". This is probably the 1,999,999th time the organization has managed not to tell the freaking security that people can f'ing stand in the Fort. People are pretty much free to stand anywhere they want (winthin reason) in the bottom half of the section. Actually the whole section is standing so if I wanted to, I could stand in the last freaking row. If Mr. and Mrs. Stick-up-the-ass doesn't like it, the security should have found them other seats and the ticket office never should have sold them the tickets!

RC

 

MoLEhilL - I'm glad you asked.

I'm not suprised this happend, and I'm suprised that anyone is suprised.

GA tickets were clearly marked GA. and you could curse and yell or whatever you wanted to do @ 30,000 ft above sea level.
fantastic view of the game, unlike the fort,
noisy, unlike the fort which was inaudible,
and no security.

I'm convinced that they just don't like you guys. I'd find other seats, and go underground if i was you.

And as for the comment about not going to games unless there is a supporters section - You S&*ck.

The whole F()*ng stadium is a supporters section. Non supporters were at the celtics game.

- Your Favorite Rumpswab.

 

Ooh a special section

For self important 'hey look at what a good fan i am because i sing silly songs all game long !' morons like Tammy Hill

I know what the Fort is.

Once again it's the self important Midnight Whiners crying over something so small the day after the Revs make the finals, take it to double over time and draw a massive crowd

I knew you girls would find something to complain about


BTW I was in 141 and couldn't hear you folks at all during the game. So yeah sure you deserve a special section all right.........

 

I do admit - the 'special people' do tend to congregate there... They also seem to want 'special parking'... I'm starting to get it.

the Fort is the Handicap section, and the Special Taligate area or what ever you girls call it is Handicap parking?

sorry I wasn't sensitive to your 'special needs'.

 

Where's that Nakata guy when you need him? He could have sorted this whole mess out.

 

REV-OKe and Georgeplmr:

When you two decide to get tickets to the Fort and assimilate with the supporters who are there, then you may comment on the people and atmosphere there. Until then, your comments and mudsligging amount to nothing more than incindiery trolling.

 

Give it a rest. Your post just makes you sound like an idiot.

The Riders have done plenty for the Revs through the years in terms of support at home and on the road. I don't think it's asking too much to have a "special section" both in the parking lot and in the stadium with CONSISTANT implimentation of AGREED rules. Every team does this for their supporter's groups. I don't think "special" treatment is out of line. It's not like Monty put a gun to Kraft's head with these requests. The Revs just don't have a freaking clue on how to communicate these rules with these security guards and cops.

The Revs would go on without the Riders, the Rev Army and the Fort, but I'm not sure the gameday experience would be as colorful.

RC

 

For the record, MolEHilL landed the first punch in this round.

Been there done that (thats how i know that sitting in the fort sucks a$$).

I'm not mudslinging, or trolling. just stating the obvious. THAT IT IS NOT SUPRISING THAT YOU GET WHAT YOU GET in the fort.

you people wear a big 'kick me' sign on your backside then wonder why you get kicked.

Again, read slowly, so your pea-brain can comprehend this: the supporters section STARTS WHEN YOU ENTER THE STADIUM.

 

Hear Hear!!!

Glad somebody started this thread. I haven't been to a great deal of matches over the last 2 seasons and I didn't feel it was my place to start it.

I held season tix in the FORT for 2 or 3 seasons and had to give them up. It wasn't financially viable since my two sons and I had to miss so many games due to other activities in their and my life. The FORT always seemed to be a GA section. Even though I'm not an official member of the Midnight Riders, me and my boys were always warmly welcomed and did our best to lend our voices to the cause.

For the MLS Cup match, I actually bought tickets twice. First, at the start of the playoffs. They were very nice $25 seats I got to watch the MLS Cup regardless of the participants. When the REVs won v the Crew, there was no question of where me and my big mouth had to be .

I spent a good 2 or 3 days going back and forth to ticketmaster at work and at home until finally 3 tickets in the FORT were available. You'd have thought I'd just scratched a lotty ticket worth $1,000 by my reaction. My sons were equally thrilled that we'd be experiencing MLS Cup 2002 with the Riders and co.

We got to the stadium just in time to get into line 15 minutes before the stadium opened. Our original plan (we figured everybody would be standing and chanting being the FORT and all) was to stay toward the back since our tix read Row 26. We grabbed seats in about the 15th to 20th row. As game time approached, it became quite clear that there was going to be a buffer of silent supporters between us and the main FORT. We decided to move down and were standing just to the left of row 1 next to a Fire supporter and about 6 people from Monty and his posse.

We were a victim of the yellowjacket. He asked for my tickets and I assumed I was ok because I had section 143. I then tried to explain that this was supposed to be a GA section. He didn't seem to care about that, and having heard that they tend to throw supporters out, I went back to my assigned seat.

I was then harassed by the people behind me. Seems they wanted us to sit. Same security guard came to me and asked why I didn't sit down. I told him words to the effect that my ticket was sold to me as a STANDING SECTION ticket and I was not going to sit. It seems that he may have known about the standing policy as he asked, not told, me to sit.

BTW...Thank you Riders for that STANDING SECTION chant. It started right after the last "Down in front!!" I heard for the day.

Trying as we could to get these conservative fans going, they pretty much sat on their hands until OT.

All in all, it was an enjoyable match. I know it would have been far more enjoyable down in front!

Scott

 

Since you too have nthing to contribute to this forum then both of you should leave. Unless you have tickets in section 143 this doesn't concern you.

The Magpie

 

How idiotic is it to go to the stadium every week and stand in the same spot every week, and get hrassed by the same guard every week, and then come to this board and complain about it every week.

how does the saying go... fool me once, shame on you fool me twice, shame on me... or something like that

GET A NEW SEAT.

then watch the game in peace. 61,000 other people did just fine on sunday.

 

Aaaarrrrgh!

OK, I was shut out of the Fort when I tried to get tickets so I watched the game from the opposite corner in 118. Every Rev-o-lu-tion chant that started in our section was my doing. I jumped to my feet often and stood and shouted plenty during the match. I felt bad a few times about the people behind and sat back down.

Now just how ridiculous is it that I wasn't able to be in section 143 yet there were people there less active than I was? The whole point of having the special section is not to treat some people special but to keep everyone happy. Standers can stand together, sitters can sit together.

The really ridiculous thing is that this is still a problem. Communication should not be this difficult. If administration agrees with a group of fans that one section will be available for noisy standing without regard to seat number why in the world can this not be communicated to the people who are charged with enforcement?

I have no problem with people wanting to sit through the match and have a good view, but I do have a problem when those people have a problem with me enjoying the game in the way I choose in a section set aside for that purpose.

*sigh*

 

your're right. i apologize if i offended anyone with my 'special needs' comments.

 

First of all it's not about it being a "special section" it's about it being a section that you can stand and make some noise. That way you aren't bothering ANYONE ELSE. If you want to sit where this crowd and this atomosphere is then people go to the Fort. I don't ever bitch and complain about security until yesterday.

My issue was that I was being yelled at to sit down. I dealt with the situation appropriatly and I was actually taken care of by a couple of the security guys who stand in front of the Fort and they were great.

However, if you want to slam the Riders or the Rev Army don't freaking sit in 143 and don't freaking read the threads about the goings on in the section.

Listening to the Kansas City supporters and what they do is great. The section being GA and offering it to people if they would like to move over there. Nobody denies that the whole stadium is a supporters section. However this section is one where certain behavior is designated,

If it's not important to have a supporters section then why did we talk to people all over the country about thier section and thier issue concerning it. Why is it when you get the crowd shots they are always at the Fort.

Bottom Line: Poor communication took the crowd out of the game and it's unfornate that the Revs couldn't get the noise and enthusiam that they got leading up to the playoffs.

 

Wow!!! I just took some time to reread a few threads. Typically I read content as opposed to where it's coming from. It would seem that REV-OKe and georgeplmr seem to have issues with the FORT supporters that go alot deeper than the surface. Let me try to draw an analogy for anyone who cares to listen.

We live in what some consider the nation with the most freedoms in the world. Take religion for example. You have a right to worship any god, idol or even toilet seat that you wish to. I may not see eye to eye with my neighbor on religion, but I would go to bat with him 100% if somebody harassed him about his choice of religion. We have the freedom to make a personal choice on how we worship or if we even worship at all.

Much the same is true about supporting your soccer club. Some like to sit down, relax, and enjoy the rush of edrenilin when an exciting play happens. That's one end of the spectrum. Way to the other side are the people who take up space in the FORT. These people are fanatics to the extreme. They want the rush of emotions to be at a constant high and then go beyond that when favorable events happen on the pitch.

Is there anything wrong with either supporter...NO, they both come to support their team in a way that they feel comfortable in. I don't have a problem with people who sit on their hands...I don't see why certain posters have a problem when people want to get together and get, for lack of a better phrase "REVVED UP"!


REV-OKe and georgeplmr, I'd go to bat for you for your right to sit in a "sitting" section" and not be harassed by people standing in front of you...why don't you offer the same for patrons who choose to experience a soccer match while standing and chanting???

Scott

 

Let's see if YOUR pea-brain can comprehend this.

When the higher-ups in the organization promise your group conditions and their underlings don't comply, there's a problem. When Joe Rent-a-Cop isn't willing to listen to us paying customers, there's a problem.

This thread is about the Fort. You don't sit in the Fort. Leave.

RC