The Fire Jim Curtin Thread [MERGED]

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by Handsome Pete, Jun 10, 2014.

  1. UnionDues

    UnionDues Member+

    Aug 16, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The media that covers this team, both corporate and independent, cares more about its access and its relationships with the club brass than it does with accountability. This has always been the case.
     
  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't that the case with most media in this country though? (sports, politics, business, crime, etc..)
     
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  3. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He really doesn't understand the sport.
     
  4. derek750

    derek750 Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  5. LuckyStriker

    LuckyStriker Member+

    Favorite club? a German one..........
    Apr 14, 2010
    in exile-Statute of Limitations yet to expire
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Things to do this week:
    1). Go back and re-read this entire thread.

    2).......................
     
  6. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Articles and negative media coverage help mobilize the fan base... it's that simple... puff pieces and ignoring the issues creates an environment of ignorance. (See: Reddit)
     
  7. Handsome Pete

    Handsome Pete Member+

    May 16, 2011
    Minneapolis
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2014 feels like a lifetime ago. I'd do a lot of things different. But I'd still start this thread.
     
  8. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Something has to change, we're not getting better players but even if we could Curtin isn't good enough.
     
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  9. jerseysob

    jerseysob Member

    Sep 3, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    "The media that covers this team, both corporate and independent, cares more about its access and its relationships with the club brass than it does with accountability. This has always been the case."

    AMEN
     
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  10. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How do we expect the forwards to see more service if the manager continues to role out two-defensive mids in front of a back four and a number 10 who is not naturally gifted for that position? The midfield is often too stretched and empty, and no one is really there in the middle to occupy space and draw out defenders centrally. As a consequence, not only do we see a lack of attacking mids linking up with whoever is the forward at the time, but the wingers who try to whip in crosses have to forces balls into a mix where the Union is consistently outnumbered in the area.
     
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  11. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Are you available? Are you cheap? You might want to get your resume in to Sugarman.
     
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  12. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A certain GM has mostly ignored the 10 position. Our only real options there are an out of position player, a lazy midfielder who has never shown an ability to bring his teammates into the game, or a kid out of college. At this point, I want to see the latter (not that Jimbo would actually have the backbone to take a risk and roll the dice).
     
  13. breslinp

    breslinp Member+

    Jan 20, 2010
    Malvern, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you want him to do something crazy and play Ale in the back and bring that $400K bench warmer Alberg off the bench?
     
  14. breslinp

    breslinp Member+

    Jan 20, 2010
    Malvern, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depends... does that college kid practice hard? That seems to be the most important quality.
     
  15. ScottyMac26

    ScottyMac26 Member+

    Jan 13, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    The important thing is we're all there now. We all did crazy stuff when we were younger, drank, unprotected sex, wanted to give Curtin time to bring his guys in, calling people out for mistakes in their youth won't help.
     
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  16. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bedoya needs to be a forward and much taller for that switch to make Philly Tough sense.
     
  17. Cherry Hill SOB

    Cherry Hill SOB Member+

    Aug 30, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I blame it all on the "no win whites". If it weren't for those we would have 10 points already
     
  18. JuggleMeBalls

    JuggleMeBalls Member

    Aug 9, 2010
    Formerly Sec 103
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Clearly the soccer media is an extension of the teams PR dept. On the KK and DZ podcast, they mentioned Ilsinho practicing with the starters then immediately realized they gave out to much info and in fact mentioning that they shouldn't have said that.. I ask, what are they there for if not to report what they see ?


    It seems to me that Haris would be way better at the 10. He's crafty as hell on the ball but doesn't offer much defensively. Conversely, Bedoya's skill set is gritty defensive work and smart passes to maintain possession. Ale just isn't the playmaker they want him to be.
    This seems like the obvious move right ?
     
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  19. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He didn't take a risk with Jones?
     
  20. lopezzzz

    lopezzzz Member

    Jun 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    He had no choice.
     
  21. Scottj10

    Scottj10 Member

    Wolverhampton Wanderers
    Aug 10, 2011
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jim Curtin had the 2015 pre season, 2016 pre season, and now 2017 pre season as well as summer transfer windows to build his squad. How long does it take? He's been given way too much time and during that period we've stayed in the same mediocre place. I guess in the MLS there is no relegation, so since the fans expect mediocrity what pressure is there? Clearly they're content with subpar attendance.
     
  22. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe Crevalle was injured, but lest we forget BC7. I think he did have a choice.
     
  23. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's such a simple solution to where they are right now. Either play Bedoya for Jones with Alberg at 10 or Bedoya for Ilson Jr with Alberg at 10. Its still a flawed lineup, but it does play to strengths... Hell, flip Bedoya and Ilsinho for all I care. Why stick with something that so obviously will not work.
     
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  24. lopezzzz

    lopezzzz Member

    Jun 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    This and Tampa win thing makes me think you're a Russian troll bot.
     
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  25. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't Steel lose with what was basically a Union B team? Never been better fellas!
     
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