The Final Boss! - Real Madrid News, Updates & Discussion Thread

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  1. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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  2. Saeta Rubia

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    May 28, 2010
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    Didn't he pick up 4 month long injury in a friendly for Brazil after refusing to get subbed when he felt a niggle in first half? All this bravado after back to back ACLs.

     
  3. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
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    Story sounds sus af.
     
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  4. boeder

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    #8129 boeder, May 21, 2026
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    He was charging like a bull and doing acrobatic jumps prompting many posters here to predict that his erratic style of play will get him injured.

    What about his 2x ACLs? Ancelotti? The medics? Pintus? Or Perez for not signing a CB in 23/24 and 24/25.

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  5. boeder

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  6. Saeta Rubia

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    Klopp will come out and deny if Riquelme try to sell that lie again ala 2021. :D
     
  7. 4x4s

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    Sorry for my choice of words but you have to be the dumbest mothereffer to fall for that in 2026
     
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  8. AppleBob86

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    I don't think Ted is the kind of guy that will wait for success like the Americans have done at Arsenal.
     
  9. 4x4s

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    I think the priority at Arsenal was to make money. At Chelsea it seems to be to spend it.
     
  10. Hendrix22

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    So basically for you the only reason to ever change a president is if there is a looming threat of bankruptcy. JFC.

    We can do better and we should look for the ways to do that. Real Madrid will not collapse without Florentino. The only way it will is if Florentino makes it completely dependent on him.
     
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  11. Zidane05

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    To be fair, Florentino took over when the club was in one of its worst financial periods, and the period between his first and second stint almost led us down the same path to where Barca is today from a financial perspective. The sample size is pretty big here.
     
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  12. Hendrix22

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    And if he doesnt?

    Haaland has flirted with Madrid plenty this season and before. Hes a glory hunting mercenary like Mbappe. Guardiola leaving changes things.

    Klopp wouldnt accept working under Florentino where hes a sitting duck and overriden constantly by players who have the president's ear. Not sure it would be the same under another president.
     
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  13. Hendrix22

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    #8138 Hendrix22, May 21, 2026
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    The sample size of three people? Over the course of 40 years?
     
  14. Zidane05

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    The person before him and the person in between him, and then his stint? Yes I would say that is a pretty big sample size.
     
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  15. AppleBob86

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    Arsenal gradually spent a lot of money though over a 4-5 year period which ended with them winning the PL. Chelsea will load up players and expect instant results.

    IMO, Xabi will get the same project he had at Madrid. Chelsea will buy who they want and ask Xabi to load them up
     
  16. fierro

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    Not surprised.

    When the manager is this poor of a communicator, with some poeople claiming he's a bit of a mute or whatever, then stories like this totally fit with what we understand the situation was where the manager either couldn't or wouldn't take the time inform himself and apply the "personal touch" so to say of involving him in some of the more miniscule tasks and details but instead perhaps saw himself as a dictator who simply barks orders that are to be followed without hesitation.




    The players were used to a guy like Carlo who greets them with a good morning and a handshake everyday, eveytime and asks how they are doing - the icebreaker they need to tell the coach if somethings wrong but also to remove all doubt if that's all it is.
     
  17. 4x4s

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    The reason to change president is that a president presents a strong project across all layers of the club. The economic/financial aspect of the club as an event host and service provider (which that parking lot deal as shady as it was is geared to), as well as a provider of opportunity across multiple sports, age groups and all the challenges these provide.

    Just saying "we'll get the best coach, and the best players" and the suddenly get toppled and defeated in court being pushed into paying back millions on a previously brokered deal while you was caught napping is dangerous business.

    If a president only knows what coach he'll hired and a couple players he's seen on TV, he clearly isn't capable of operating this giant organization. You don't need to sell me the luxury date and the limo, you need to tell me how you can afford it and for how long.


    If somebody can present a sustainable project with a healthy cooperative layer to it in contrast to Florentino trying to go to war with the entire sport, I would gladly support it.


    Just not being Florentino Perez because some guy online is sick of his old action and figures and wants new ones to play with isn't good enough for me.
     
  18. boeder

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  19. Hendrix22

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    What you dont seem to understand is that unless you have what you call "get the best coach and the best players" you don't win and if you don't win the institution gets weaker. But there are different interpretations of "the best coach and the best players". Florentino's idea of that is the best players and coach in a vacuum and it has backfired badly with the Mbappe affair. But then there is also the idea of the best coach and players that are not necessarily the best in the rankings or most famous/popular, but would constitute the best team together. Now for this you need to have some football knowledge, in addition to business and organizational knowledge which is the basic prerequisite.

    Either way, this is the priority - having the best and most successful football team. Everything starts from there. I just don't understand why the assumption is that anyone except Florentino would be automatically be bad at this. Because Calderon or Sanz were? Why do we automatically believe this Riquelme guy is like them when he apparently also has his own business empire?

    We are not talking here that some rando like you or me become a president. It doesnt have to be Riquelme. Any potential candidate would obviously have enormous business acumen and the credentials to do this. Florentino himself set the requirements. But the difference between candidates is the football club project, not their proficiency in other matters. I'm not saying anybody can do these other matters. I'm saying its not only Florentino that can do them.
     
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  20. AppleBob86

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    The two biggest banks in Spain lol
     
  21. 4x4s

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    Me neither, the difference between me and you is that until somebody actually presents an alternative, this is the only option. You are gullible enough to believe that anybody could do it, I want a little bit more.

    Also, the club isn't sustained by "being the best team", this is the easiest way to go bankrupt. Multiple clubs did. That was the reason for financial Fairplay in the first place.

    Football doesn't pay the bills. Any halfway decent investment manager will tell you that.
     
  22. AppleBob86

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  23. 4x4s

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    What people like Vieira doesn't understand is that Mourinho is like a father to him. To players playing today, he's a grandfather.

    The relationship changes dynamic, and the gap in age makes the message much less relatable.

    Which is why I don't believe he'll try to "let me tell you how this works" to the team because let's be honest: Last time they were on top of the world he had just signed in Turkey. Both parties are aware why this marriage between them was arranged.
     
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  24. boeder

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    #8149 boeder, May 22, 2026
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    He secured the guarantee from 2 foreign banks but there is simply no way he beats Florentino who has monstrous pull with the socios + Riquelme's largely obscure campaign.

    But Florentino himself had little chance of beating Mendoza (not Sanz like I had previously said) in the 1995 elections.

    This would be the first time somebody runs against Perez since 2004.
     
  25. robertocarlos3

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    No need for any sample size.
    The economy trajectory that Perez took this club throughout his time is unheard of in the football world. Maybe even all of sport.
    I would love for him to stay forever and let someone else take all sport decisions.
     

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