The Fenômeno from Palmeiras - The Endrick Felipe de Sousa Thread

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  1. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    From what I've read, it helps that Lyon doesn't really have a striker ... or a competent one.
     
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  2. J-Mezzy

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Mariano did well there

    so expect big things from Bobby
     
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  3. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Which means if he struggles there the guy is packing his stuff to go back to Brazil?

    He's joining a rough situation there, that team is so incredibly mediocre. Oof.
     
  4. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
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    What type of club or situation do you want him to join? And if he cannot make it in Lyon, he won't make in Real Madrid. And if he joins a stronger team, he won't be playing much because they dpn't need him and they probably not interetsted in developing him with a buy clause.
     
  5. 4x4s

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    Honestly, this seems like way too much work and that is sort of my feeling around the entire Endrick experience.
     
  6. celito

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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    That's a decision for him and the club to make. I mean, life could we worse for him. Gabigol made a good life playing in Brazil. Vitor Roque is doing well now and is happy.
     
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  7. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Good point, gonna consult our domestic "good person" consultant on where him coming to Madrid for a coffee and leaving millions of euros heavier ranks on the good person rankings.

    Personally i find this just so exhausting considering other players his age are just working and there's barely any headaches. Just feel like the entire deal has been full of major red flags so far.
     
  8. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    I'm so hurt:cry: but I will give my take nonetheless. Its not Endrick's fault that he just doesn't cut it at the moment, I'm sure he believes in himself and thinks hes worth the money, hes probably trying the best he can but hes just not good enough yet at least. Its possible that we did waste a lot of money on him but thats the good part about being young, you have a lot of time to turn it around. Casemiro's story was quite inspiring in that regard.

    So yeah ultimate verdict is that Florentino splashing on him does not make him a bad person.
     
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  9. Dr. MvN

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    And with his performance this year, if Roque wants another crack at Europe, he's more than young enough to have that opportunity. He ended up upgrading from CAP to Palmeiras, in effect, in a bit of a messy way but Palmeiras and Flamengo are the top of Brazilian and South American football right now, there's absolutely no shame in being a key player at one of those clubs.
     
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  10. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Not sure how that's the player's fault if that's what you're alluding to. I haven't followed his situation closely so not sure what he is to be blamed for. I know he had some injuries that affected some of his chances to get minutes. He obviously needs development and that should have been expected ... and he is going up against an attacking line that won't give him minutes because they don't like being subbed. So a loan makes sense.
     
  11. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Roque was never Barca level talent, but he isn't a striker that will do well playing in between CBs in a 4-3-3. He finally found his stride in a 2 man forward setup. Honestly I think that will also be the case with Endrick.
     
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  12. Lyra

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    BREAKING: Real Madrid and Lyon reach loan agreement for Endrick.
    @diarioas
     
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  13. J-Mezzy

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    Good for Endrick, hope he gets to develop there
     
  14. 4x4s

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    I've written him off when it comes to what he is for us right now, but he can have a good career elsewhere. I would have much prefered him in Germany though. Full stadiums, fast football, less distractions off the field.

    Send him to Bielefeld or Wolfsburg. Guy is married anyway, he doesn't need the night life.
     
  15. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    The fact he couldn't get minutes will be one of the reasons they unsettle Xabi and this team when February and March arrives.

    The kid can score and has a nose for just showing up at places at the right time. Completely frozen out of the team and we threw him on as a Hail Mary and the kid got a header off the bar and a shot that would have went in if not for City's amazing penchant of using players as goal shields.

    He is going to tear it up in France and people will then ask why he couldn't have even seen minutes in Madrid.
     
  16. 4x4s

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    You couldn't name one world class player that isn't playing for PSG (excluding Hendrix22) but we'll be full of French football experts here.
     
  17. Akramzizou

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    Might be a good thing for a young impressionable player to develop somewhere else for now while the dressing room culture is what it is.
     
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  18. Khan

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    #2518 Khan, Dec 13, 2025
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    Yeah, between the lack of talent, the lack of height, the system Barça play, and the abject lack of funds for Barça back then, I had no idea WTF Deco was thinking. The Roque transfer was the moment when I doubted that Deco can even read his own name or count beyond the number of fingers and toes he has.

    As for Endrick, I think its similar. He has talent, but he lacks height to play as a sole #9 between two wingers. Its a shame, but I do think he could prosper, if he is in a club that plays with 2 forwards instead of 3. (Kinda how Alvarez was a rotational player at Citeh, but is a key piece for Atleti and their 2 forward system.)


    TL/DR: The easiest scouting for a Sporting director is, IF your team plays with 3 forwards/1 #9, then a midget #9 is highly unlikely to prosper for your team.
     
  19. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
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    He’ll play under Fonesca who did well with Roma and Lille before being quickly sacked by Milan, so he’ll need Endrick to lead his attack.

    Lyon are 6th right now so Endrick could turn their season around potentially.
     
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  20. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

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    Aug 15, 2019
    In other words, the Endrick hero arc begins soon. He's so incredibly talented and it's crazy to me that people can't see it.

    One of Xabi's biggest mistakes is freezing this young man out.
     
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  21. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

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    Aug 15, 2019
    Endrick is our best teenage talent and we're loaning him out lol just criminal stuff from the manager and board.

    He would help us so much if he got more minutes. He would give this team a spark that is desperately needed.
     
  22. Aensensen

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    Jun 10, 2011
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    Thoughts? I have to be honest, I haven't given Endrick much thought this season... But I have to admit it kind of seems brutal what this kid has been experiencing. On the other hand, that's two managers now ho aren't giving him any chances... Do they know something we don't?
     
  23. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

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    Aug 12, 2019
    Endrick could be a horrible human being,even if that is the case there is still no explanation how Brahim,Mastantuono ,mister no goal in 30 games are getting all the minutes doing nothing on the pitch and he never gets the chance
     
  24. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    They are seeing him every day and can judge his work ethic and maturity on a level we can't. Maybe there's special talent there and the guy is lazy, or there's great work ethic but the talent is not there.

    Only one way to find out.
     
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  25. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

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    Aug 12, 2019
    what exactly do they see in Brahim ? or Franco who is like a headless chicken 90% of the time
     
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